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Yep, tried it, didn't like it's user interface.

Gene


>
>NVDA is a Windows screen-reader.  It doesn't do any screen-scraping or 
>video interception.  What it uses is the operating systems underlying 
>MSAA (Microsoft Active Accessibility( and UIA (User Interface 
>Automation) subsystems.
>
>afik there is no single accessibility system in Linux.  GTK has the ATK 
>(Accessibility Toolkit) which I believe a few of the graphical tools 
>hook into.
>
>Has anyone on the list used yasr (yet another screen-reader)?  I tried 
>this on the Pi and it crashed every ten minutes.
>
>yasr uses a pseudo-terminal to keep track of screen-updates and cursor 
>movement etc.
>
>Mike
>
>
>On 08/05/2013 21:44, Hart Larry wrote:
>> Just a speculative thought.  Doesn't NVDA talk without video drivers?
>> Hart
>>
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>
>-- 
>Michael A. Ray
>Analyst/Programmer
>Witley, Surrey, South-east UK
>
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>Visit: http://www.raspberryvi.org/
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