From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mta05-svc.ntlworld.com ([62.253.162.45]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 16m3Y0-0000fZ-00 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2002 21:03:52 -0500 Received: from gena-j.net ([80.4.50.216]) by mta05-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020316020355.FWOV7206.mta05-svc.ntlworld.com@gena-j.net> for ; Sat, 16 Mar 2002 02:03:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=gena-j.net) by gena-j.net with esmtp (Exim 3.34 #1 (Debian)) id 16m3YV-0000KE-00 for ; Sat, 16 Mar 2002 02:04:23 +0000 To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca Subject: Re: FW: USA: Online book-sharing service for the blind borrows a page from Napster In-reply-to: Your message of Fri, 15 Mar 2002 15:34:24 -0500. Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 02:04:23 +0000 From: "Georgina" Message-Id: Sender: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca Errors-To: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.8 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi I thought that they required both formats, the text and its image so that when the ocr technology gets better the images can be reprocessed? I think that it was the k1000 list that suggested that kes files would be required for the rerecognising of the pages. Gena >They don't require image files. They will accept image files but will >hold these until they have the proper technology to convert these into an >accessible electronic format. I questioned their acceptance of Image >files because they are huge and am concerned about their running out of >storage space for these pigs. I cringe about it but if this is the only >way they can receive a book, in moderation, I suppose this isn't all bad. > >Amanda Lee > > > >On Fri, 15 Mar 2002 jwantz@hpcc2.hpcc.noaa.gov wrote: > >> Hi Gena, >> I thought the cost of k1000 and Openbook Ruby were the same. I run >> k1000 on a WINDOWS machine and the image files use tiff format. As far >> as I know Ruby does as well. I doubt they want image files though I >> haven't read their web page yet. I assume they want processed text. >> >> Jim Wantz >> On >> Fri, 15 Mar 2002, Georgina wrote: >> >> > Hi >> > >> > Please see my message on the cost of producing these books. To say that >> > someone with low income can recooperate some or all of their costs is got to >> > be missleading. >> > >> > As you already know my feelings on the cost of K1000 there's no need for m e >> > to go into that but if someone can't afford a scanner and K1000 or even Op en >> > Book Ruby, how are they going to recooperate some or all of the cost? >> > >> > Surely, corretcing is out of the question too? Firstly, they'd have to go >> > and buy the book and then be able to compare words and other symbols on th e >> > screen with that on the printed pages of the book. >> > >> > Furthermore, that's if they can afford to use Windows to use the above ocr >> > packages. I understood that the image files were also required, thus only >> > Windows users might and I say might be the only ones to be able to submit >> > scanned material. What is the required format? >> > >> > It'll be very interesting to see how many people will be in a position to >> > submit material to the project. >> > >> > Gena >> > >> > >> > >> > >Actually, the cost is $50 per year. First year there is a $25 setup fee. >> > >But as stated, if you contribute by submitting books that you scan, >> > >correct errors and do what they call Publish to submit books already >> > >uploaded and/or do what is known as Basic Publish whereby you clean-up >> > >their database to reflect appropriate information about the entried >> > >therein, you earn fifty cents per title. To download and correct a book, >> > >you earn $2.50. Do ten of those per year, you earn half of your annual >> > >membership. >> > > >> > >So, there are ways that a person with limited income resources can benefi t >> > >and still use the service. >> > > >> > >Amanda Lee >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >_______________________________________________ >> > >Speakup mailing list >> > >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> > >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Speakup mailing list >> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> > >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> > > >_______________________________________________ >Speakup mailing list >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup