From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from iseult.blacknight.ie (iseult.blacknight.ie [81.17.252.70]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id A229410D31 for ; Tue, 27 May 2008 01:46:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [78.16.120.152] (helo=digitaldarragh.com) by iseult.blacknight.ie with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1K0s1G-000495-0L for speakup@braille.uwo.ca; Tue, 27 May 2008 06:46:46 +0100 Subject: RE: installation of suse linux MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 06:46:53 +0100 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Message-ID: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7235.2 In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: installation of suse linux thread-index: Aci/XIHbOiBdlJMCTc2n+p4QeAIAfgAX7+3A References: From: "Darragh" To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." X-blacknight-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-blacknight-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-blacknight-MailScanner-From: lists@digitaldarragh.com X-Spam-Status: No X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.10 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 May 2008 05:46:59 -0000 Cody,=20 The only way you'll be able to do an independent installation of = OpenSuSE, Sles or Sled is via SSH.=20 When you get OpenSuSE installed, You'll struggle against the = accessibility of YaST, the system tool and package manager and even in = Gnome, you'll find the weirdest and most stupid bugs because although = they have some great developers in ovell, they just don't have the = resources for Accessibility. However, one good thing they have done is = employe one person to work on accessibility full time. Marco Scambrax = is his name and he's a very intelligent developer. He's unfortunately = fighting against the rest of the company so his efferts do not reflect = the end result.=20 There are two versions of YaST. The GTK+ and the NGurses versions. = Speakup will work to a reasonable degree in the text based version but = it's not great. Mainly because there are a lot of different controls = for it to handle.=20 In the graphical version, they've really come on in leaps and bounds = over the last few years thanks to the GTK+ version released in 10.3 = however they've a very long way to come. The GTK+ version was not = tested well with accessibility so I've ofund dozens of errors in it that = are all reported in bugzilla. Some of these have been fixed and = distributed to 10.3 via online update however a lot have been pushed = forward to 11. =20 Speaking of Eleven, OpenSuSE has a lot to live up to so one of the first = things I'll do is run it through it's paces but although I'm optimistic, = in reality, I know that there will still be a lot of problems.=20 Sorry I cant be more positive. =20 Darragh www.digitaldarragh.com > -----Original Message----- > From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup- > bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Cody Hurst > Sent: 26 May 2008 19:16 > To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. > Subject: installation of suse linux >=20 > Hello list, >=20 > Next year I am going to be using suse for a Linux course, towards > the second part of the ear. I have no other way of accessing the > install, hwoever when a friend booted the first cd of the cd set he > had seen some text scroll by that looked as if they were loading > braille modules. >=20 > I have read about blinux, however the writings were old, and when > trying to follow the instructions, they did not work. My only option > is speakup, and a BNS. Is there a way that speakup can be included > relatively soon so that I can do this course? This would not be just > for me, but anyone wishing to install a professional grade OS in the > field. This would greatly enhace accessibility for these individuals. >=20 > Please write back to me on or off list, describing what I can do > otherwise if this is not possible. >=20 > Cody >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >=20