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[67.60.46.7]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id m65sm2613926oif.5.2015.02.07.06.44.31 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 07 Feb 2015 06:44:32 -0800 (PST) From: "Glenn / Lenny" X-Google-Original-From: "Glenn / Lenny" Message-ID: Reply-To: "Glenn / Lenny" To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." References: <20150207085257.GG2032@linlap.wavecable.com> In-Reply-To: <20150207085257.GG2032@linlap.wavecable.com> Subject: Re: finished with slackware Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2015 08:43:54 -0600 Organization: Home MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18463 X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.2.4 X-BeenThere: speakup@linux-speakup.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2015 14:44:56 -0000 You know, I use Ubuntu, and I have become disenchanted with Linux. With every new release, we have to rebuild accessibility. Sure it is free, and it is safer and more powerful than Windows, but Windows is still more accessible than Linux. I had big hopes for Linux, and I have reached a point now where it is just a tool in the toolbox, mainly for drive manipulation. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Holmes" To: Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2015 2:52 AM Subject: Re: finished with slackware I hate hearing stuff like this; we have made so much progress over the years in making Linux accessible and then these things start coming up. When you can't even boot a basic system with current versions of installer and kernel, then there is something seriously wrong! I grew up on Slackware clear back in 1994 or so. I then had to login from a different computer running a terminal emulator but that was a start. As for me, I like Arch Linux and there is a current talking image available. I thought Fedora was currently accessible; no? On Fri, Feb 06, 2015 at 08:37:32PM -0500, Jude DaShiell wrote: > I was trying to install a current version of slackware using the litetalk > synthesizer earlier. Given slackware's installer kernel is broken, I got > some remote sighted assistance and was told wait 30 seconds then key in > boot parameters and that fails persistently insofaras getting speech up. > So apparently slackware and Fedora have something in common. In both > cases an installer interested in doing an accessible installation needs to > find and download an earlier version of the operating systems that did > install accessibly and use that version to install then upgrade through > the versions to get to current versions. Moonshine on Fedora worked on > intel machines in the past and if my memory is correct, maybe slackware > 11.2 ought to be able to get it done in this case. What I will do now is > take a stab at getting slackware 11.2 to speak and if that fails as time > and my download quotas permit will try other versions in the future. This > is now a low priority back burner project. I was surprised the > distribution got broken in this way. > > > > jude Twitter: @JudeDaShiell > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@linux-speakup.org > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@linux-speakup.org http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup