From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Greylist: delayed 2098 seconds by postgrey-1.34 at speech; Tue, 14 Feb 2012 21:26:22 EST Received: from hapkido.dreamhost.com (hapkido.dreamhost.com [66.33.216.122]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44508C1A0BD for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2012 21:26:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from homiemail-a4.g.dreamhost.com (mailbigip.dreamhost.com [208.97.132.5]) by hapkido.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88AE41B5FC1 for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2012 17:51:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from homiemail-a4.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a4.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E73751C063 for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2012 17:51:23 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=brannan.name; h=content-type :mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; q=dns; s= brannan.name; b=jFaKfYp7G/FegFy2EqyJLhQcbOKsT1/MNIFZX3ZwjBLLKTur st0vjaCjnXz1JiCCqVhGV9HoAVXAex0frvltvmfz1gTBPi886fNCI2CiiDGz2GjG JD66VsczS/A1KKEGgP5Au/BWt261fMgNJEq3pztmfNyn6sKxWW/XyOFSQFU= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=brannan.name; h= content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; s= brannan.name; bh=IZ59LTm1LrQWu9x+GWGQpbMv/So=; b=uFFGHF7rUBfYSDj hcV/YIlHwyDQvNjfmE1dICsFJUP5VzUryAg4G/+Slr84VoTpGogQl1JUVlmq7iw+ OFqL0xGqZQhNgV0RGFyf65O8MEstLFgAOhnbjvCV/xtpnO8pLPSo9fq/D/KRXe28 WZ2mOc2bhHUXcBkW64tP3A7MxB0Q= Received: from [192.168.1.109] (cpe-107-9-193-45.neo.res.rr.com [107.9.193.45]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: buddy@brannan.name) by homiemail-a4.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AE4D951C05F for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2012 17:51:22 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1257) Subject: Re: Building PC without any sight (wasRE: still more on bug) From: Buddy Brannan In-Reply-To: <5170D7CFD3F143E5909955226126895F@ownercb76d9f6c> Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 20:51:21 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <475B4523EF334135A018D4E9EC3CD3ED@randy3> <20120214200046.GA5144@googlemail.com> <5170D7CFD3F143E5909955226126895F@ownercb76d9f6c> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1257) X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 02:26:22 -0000 My experience tells me that the only trouble you're likely to have will = be with connecting the front panel LED's and buttons. How easy or = difficult this is will vary some by the motherboard, but you can usually = trace the wires to where they go. The trick is putting the connectors on = the right pins. Some sighted help is probably, well, helpful, in this = regard, but it should be pretty minimal.=20 -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY On Feb 14, 2012, at 6:24 PM, Albert Sten-Clanton wrote: > First, I believe=20 >=20 > >=20 > Also sells machines with serial ports.=20 >=20 > If it does not, or if it would just save me some big bucks, I may want = to > assemble a machine, as John did. John, how much sighted help did you = need > with that, if any? My limited experience with trying to assemble a = computer > indicated that some stuff can be known only by way of color coding, = but I'd > like to have been wrong about that. (I have no sight.) >=20 > Thanks! >=20 > Al >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca = [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] > On Behalf Of John Heim > Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 5:50 PM > To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. > Subject: Re: still more on bug >=20 > > Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 2:00 PM > Subject: Re: still more on bug >=20 >=20 >> John Heim wrote >> | Well, admittedly, we have a problem down the road regarding serial=20= >> | hardware synths. But it will be years before serial ports go away=20= >> | entirely. Every Dell server class machine still comes with at least=20= >> | one serial port. I don't know about other server manufacturers but = I=20 >> | would guess they're the same. In fact, even dell small footprint=20 >> | desktops still have serial ports. So I think it will be some time=20= >> | before server class machines don't come with serial ports. And even=20= >> | after serial ports become obsolete, speakup won't be obsolete, it=20= >> | will just have to start supporting USB synths. >>=20 >> You say just like it's easy to fix speakup to do what you want it to = do.=20 >> It's not that easy in fat to fix the code, hell i'd fix it if i could=20= >> my husband would fix it if he could probably, but it's not that easy. >>=20 >=20 > First of all, I didn't say it was going to be easy. But have you = tried? Are > you an experienced C coder? Are you saying you tried and found it = couldn't > be done? >=20 >> I've got a couple serial synths laying around but the fact is that=20 >> i've not had a computer with a serial port since 2007 so yep, guess=20= >> they're out of date. Last time i tried ordering a computer i couldn't=20= >> get del or hp to add them even though i wanted them. >=20 > I am typing this on a Dell Optiplex 760 with a serial port. We have = about > 100 760s all with serial ports. We have another 40 small footprint = 760s in > our student labs all with serial ports. We have about a dozen newer = Dell > desktops and they all have serial ports. I don't know how you managed = to > order a Dell w/o a serial port but its not that hard to get one with = it. >=20 > And those are just desktops. Of course, every one of our servers has a > serial port. We have 3 mail servers, 2 DNS servers, 3 web servers, = and 6 > machines in our VMware cluster. All have serial ports. > I just built myself a machine for home with parts ordered from newegg. = The > mobo didn't have an external serial port but it does have a serial = port > header. So then it was just a matter of attaching the appropriate = cable. So > even a machine I built myself has a serial port. >=20 > Look, I'm not saying you don't come across machines w/o serial ports. = But > holy cow, I have certainly never had any trouble finding machines with > serial ports. Laptops & apples... You're in trouble there. >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup