From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: by befuddled.reisers.ca (Postfix, from userid 65534) id D68E11F0976; Mon, 23 Jan 2017 15:40:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-ot0-x22b.google.com (mail-ot0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c0f::22b]) by befuddled.reisers.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A94211F0972 for ; Mon, 23 Jan 2017 15:40:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-ot0-x22b.google.com with SMTP id 65so111882680otq.2 for ; Mon, 23 Jan 2017 12:40:22 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=uCi47wmzMoVjcf4aH5DNvMi8GFsZ3nzl+E0IG75IWEs=; b=jB04O/SSBDqhhN/56ftTtzVqpx+/Fj+vKkyyGKIB7rCUR4DUXd4TG0Z/Xow39kgjlv dlAHhiBtuSn2OI0enbH41godhxRt7SQlP9p1lRHAAzeTgf34Rqxm5YvQ2dJJ4UdcPt8l KU71MBfBDWfKVctsb8VLcZz1GFZvQB1LnCShYuBdjOMX6PjrITz/2Q1t71lx3DzM7FC1 evGYSDAHhn1x+zYX+EhTxMpJqigfhsKObBQvYMsE1hRJ+N5Wy/Ee4sxXm+opABPNGtcY K1wAJtkA3W80fQg1Nny+O01Y8n/9ui9xeFiB8+8YDhVj9KNZzgIsY+7BUwg8u1dzIVpD RwlQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=uCi47wmzMoVjcf4aH5DNvMi8GFsZ3nzl+E0IG75IWEs=; b=Im8Vx/H89bS/e93azKoVTfZ9EmKZx18HwtgDHD19KID5UqkPZ3RyhhOvCjOa/maord ewbV6Df+NJpqI1hQ9fCceXgnZg7YB/bx3b5CXxvj9OTEHgWyMTn0k+fEICZgDQGZB830 a30g1ZMUMG8O+Cf2DgJBNYDpnADOU8jI1oX6mTxPyvpnoaOK13Us3zDt9pslpXGINyNq LjUfq/sts66huruD9+MtkFcSVt5Bze5I9toguD/WlqzkHuknwalcoO3SNkASHjWIAoiW OKhXpuwU9nKIkXxaMIzyO6CrQ6tyTedJe7HQL7vpxZrW2n/TAc3/UEdkdJModCUMRP9F pnUQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXLx1WjEVdatOuNoMNAlEU8iWRsObAlWf5t+UqRtHBfGMX50E9gsjVtkp0KeKVlSwK4vDE2P5sGlwDTQNQ== X-Received: by 10.157.1.204 with SMTP id e70mr16985097ote.65.1485204021781; Mon, 23 Jan 2017 12:40:21 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.75.40 with HTTP; Mon, 23 Jan 2017 12:40:01 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20170123134123.gxnmb3spvq45ymrk@Kraftkrust> References: <20170115151955.GG2684@var.home> <20170115145748.GF2684@var.home> <20170123122103.GG1283@var.bordeaux.inria.fr> <20170123123124.GH1283@var.bordeaux.inria.fr> <20170123134123.gxnmb3spvq45ymrk@Kraftkrust> From: =?UTF-8?B?w5h5dmluZCBMb2Rl?= Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2017 21:40:01 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [HEADS-UP] Please test Re: Speech overlapping with espeak-ng To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.2.4 X-BeenThere: speakup@linux-speakup.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2017 20:40:24 -0000 Hi: I've just tested by logging in on the console. To me all works as expected. That said I rarely login on the console since I use Debian as a server and do all admin work via ssh which means I really don't know whether what I get now on this server running sid is normal or not. However, speech on the console is very useful when I really need it like if network issues etc. I typed commands without issues. I read log files. I opened nano and I type really fast and of course I couldn't hear every character entered but I've never been able to do that when typing really fast. I edited the text and I also opened some real config files and did some edi= ting. Sorry for not finding/hearing the speech overlap. On 23 January 2017 at 14:41, Sebastian Humenda wrote: > Hi =C3=98yvind > > =C3=98yvind Lode schrieb am 23.01.2017, 14:12 +0100: >>I've upgraded both brltty and espeakup (remotely via ssh since I'm at wor= k now). >>I'll help you out test later today. > Please also upgrade brltty-espeak. > >>What exactly should I test? > - Do you realize some kind of overlap when typing quickly? > - When navigating to a longer line, press Ctrl, do you recognize a dela= y > before the speech stops? > - You have to have a keyboard table configured for this, put > `keyboard-table laptop` into `/etc/brltty/brltty.conf` for this. > - When scrolling to a lot of text, say an inbox of Mutt, do you have th= e > feeling that speech overlaps? > - There is a parameter which introduces a certain cancelling pause, put= that > into your /etc/brltty.conf: > `speech-parameters es:cancel_pause=3D150` > > 150 is the default value, please try different values (lower means le= ss > pause), to figure out whether everything sounds as expected. > > For me, a value of e.g. 10 works really fine when typing, but when scroll= ing > through many lines of text, it still sounds weird, as if it would overlap= . As > Samuel already pointed out on IRC and here, it might be not an actual ove= rlap, > but one the ear percepts. > > At the moment, I feel as if a really small cancel pause would be the opti= on I > could live best with. > > Thanks > Sebastian > -- > Web: http://www.crustulus.de (English|Deutsch) | Blog: http://www.crustu= lus.de/blog > FreeDict: Free multilingual dictionaries - http://www.freedict.org > Freies Latein-Deutsch-W=C3=B6rterbuch: http://www.crustulus.de/freedict.d= e.html