From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: by befuddled.reisers.ca (Postfix, from userid 65534) id B6E9E1EFABD; Tue, 30 Jan 2018 10:23:24 -0500 (EST) Authentication-Results: befuddled.reisers.ca; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="gk/rjX0A"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: from mail-vk0-x22a.google.com (mail-vk0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c05::22a]) by befuddled.reisers.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2CBD31EF9CB for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2018 10:23:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-vk0-x22a.google.com with SMTP id j204so6978117vke.12 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2018 07:23:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=TS86R6aCVLMbbgRxc90kP0WIwkQREylQRoQI4FMjQIs=; b=gk/rjX0Afi/NMoecTHxbHrXCM8cPwt8ZYdh38219NsHtqsKeNcP9ZuejTw6NmuHGEp ivDVVSjQPdkiIjg/eMqHPpxd/pgQUb8dr5EfgnnnDbvfKtY/4or3yL3bNz2BZzEpWhBF kuP/So+BKvPQHakROmPGJm8LqhL5m63K2O9FhFIjTNb1dtA8qpAljPEJ1h++NvsX19ux Rijew+m/vaRbqyLJS82TY3mwUMITn+Q6APn/rL0VeELxLZpd+MP/FjzVr5kPH+1TLZZj p8EsjFTyIqIuRIx1qFq98sGT9mZpLCg2/2pv+2Qmf2ExyiX+nYf+dNfZIDWQJKxIcX22 esqA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=TS86R6aCVLMbbgRxc90kP0WIwkQREylQRoQI4FMjQIs=; b=i0HApl84aoo1r82UWGMUloEav3E2mZNSnDj3xjGlSuwtKh3QeWnaYjfJNYBdZxN+Xu emRG9cZwHlXq35i/89SZC+aB4Pd1yaPKbNIeM5vvrZu+DGyBDqN+i0elc2yYL1irKZwG yw5TwcCnHvJg7XQAUDQEjrPMHUYXZe8xOW50RMGZBbpLXc/YaVIjwPIlvNDmpN6qRKU5 sFxjbVqULQzIA2D1epuIQQ6AhYNqFPPpkH5TG6N75b9GgRa2WXau/QgXV0Iln3xqidQx Q/7aamLzV6hjZNdBUN/8uffjAWwctwGf38RFfCaPuyEmWOzzc8KV61a37Rpc2/Ot6SIw xRzA== X-Gm-Message-State: AKwxytfh+FiaiVPJ8IfICTAmhT+ykeVlUP/2M7U1owA8jh6vwWyCQGJN S6J3D6UQb8H5DgH9XGFnyfjA6u0RTKf5SWFd8Sc= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AH8x225QWE39jNzBFB/jZ7dfNE0FkvPM+EzOn57O8Pr/nKqU8R1i4AGplBaD89ejh7UCO5bxbA9YE9kp4ghqy72p6tY= X-Received: by 10.31.140.71 with SMTP id o68mr22030653vkd.157.1517325798674; Tue, 30 Jan 2018 07:23:18 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.176.81.116 with HTTP; Tue, 30 Jan 2018 07:23:18 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <3fdc3c08-c1fc-4f8e-a303-0282553fc3ed@default> References: <20180130141246.GC16373@rednote.net> <3fdc3c08-c1fc-4f8e-a303-0282553fc3ed@default> From: Timothy Breitenfeldt Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 07:23:18 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Help with running Speakup on Kali Linux To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.2.4 X-BeenThere: speakup@linux-speakup.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.24 Precedence: list List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 15:23:24 -0000 Hi, my apologies for not being clear in my last post. I am using Kali because I want to learn about the security tools Kali has. I will keep in mind that arch is a better option for this though. The output of locate speakup.ko /lib/modules/4.12.0-kali1-amd66/kernel/drivers/staging/speakup /speakup.ko For now, I am just looking to get eSpeak working on it, my goal is to install voxin, which is what I am using for orca right now. Kali does have built in support for a talking installer using speakup. I believe Kali is very similar to Debian, if that helps at all. TJ Breitenfeldt On 1/30/18, Don Raikes wrote: > Hi, > > Kali is an odd choice for someone just wanting a console-based linux dist= ro. > Ubuntu server is another good choice. > > If, however you are looking for security tools then kali is a good choice= . > The kali installer is accessible since it is based on the debian talking > installer. I haven't checked lately but if I remember right speakup does > not come pre-installed in kali, although I hope to be working on a custom > kali version that will be more accessible (when I have a few minutes). > -----Original Message----- > From: Janina Sajka [mailto:janina@rednote.net] > Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 7:13 AM > To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. > Subject: Re: Help with running Speakup on Kali Linux > > So, I have to ask, why Kali Linux, specifically? It's strikes me as a rat= her > oddball choice. > > > The post you reference below isn't particularly pertinent to running > Speakup, and you still haven't told us whether Kali comes with Speakup, o= r > whether it's on you to add it into the installation. Once again, what's t= he > output of: > > locate speakup.ko > > Suggestion: You may have much more success with a distribution like Arch > which supports Speakup out of the box, and which has a talking installati= on > available: > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps-3A__wiki.archlinux.org= _index.php_TalkingArch&d=3DDwIGaQ&c=3DRoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65ea= pI_JnE&r=3DRSYNyNFr7Oj1BRE0qW_8pVA2z0qhUeWtOTBuXmZp9uE&m=3DEiMTZr4C8e9d2Erm= beyYCptTaFYi0HdGewnOWTnmf4w&s=3DJUxYZ5Z1WwEmJvd1TAXM8buhPH2soZMlw95_z0Owg2o= &e=3D > > If you go this way you'll only have the console unless you explicitly > install a GUI desktop. > > There are other choices, but the above is a good way to get to a function= ing > system with minimul fuss. > > Janina > > Timothy Breitenfeldt writes: >> Thank you for the replies. I am still fairly new to using Linux, I am >> a computer science major and am currently taking a C and unix class >> right now. I now feel comfortable enough with the basics to switch to >> using only a shell for access. I have played with Linux for a while, >> and have always preferred the console over Gnome desktop GUI for >> accessibility. I have almost no vision, and am currently using orca. >> >> Here is the link to the post I referred to on getting speakup running on >> Kali. >> >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttp-3A__linux-2Dspeakup.or >> g_pipermail_speakup_2015-2DMay_058755.html&d=3DDwIGaQ&c=3DRoP1YumCXCgaWH= vl >> ZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=3DRSYNyNFr7Oj1BRE0qW_8pVA2z0qhUeWtOTBuXmZp >> 9uE&m=3DEiMTZr4C8e9d2ErmbeyYCptTaFYi0HdGewnOWTnmf4w&s=3Dvmyx_v68qcFfCRez= of >> UMWegnKnffKCl31dEy6rITmwc&e=3D >> >> I followed all of the instructions here, and saw no change. Speakup >> never came up talking at the bootup screen. I tried typing speakup >> into the terminal while in gnome, but it didn't recognize the command. >> >> I don't know much about the kernel yet, it is something I will learn >> next quarter along with other operating system concepts. >> >> Thank you for the tip on switching to console mode. I would assume >> that I can switch back to Gnome using the same shortcut I used to >> switched to console mode (ctrl+alt+ 1-6)? >> >> Can someone take a look at this post and see if you can help? >> >> Thanks, >> >> TJ Breitenfeldt >> >> On 1/27/18, Kirk Reiser wrote: >> > To answer the other portion of your query, to move from a gui >> > console to a text console just type control-alt-f1 or any other of >> > the function keys from 1 to six. You can learn to kill off gnome and >> > gdm at a later point if you find you're happy using console mode. >> > >> > On Sat, 27 Jan 2018, Okash Khawaja wrote: >> > >> >> Hi Timothy, >> >> >> >> Welcome to speakup :) >> >> >> >> There is >> >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttp-3A__linux-2Dspeakup= .org_spkguide.txt&d=3DDwIGaQ&c=3DRoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_Jn= E&r=3DRSYNyNFr7Oj1BRE0qW_8pVA2z0qhUeWtOTBuXmZp9uE&m=3DEiMTZr4C8e9d2ErmbeyYC= ptTaFYi0HdGewnOWTnmf4w&s=3D2x78Ze1FfDGA2IUei89_yMxCCO9K_Rnin6X8pL2i0yU&e=3D >> >> which should help. >> >> Basically you need two kernel modules loaded. One is speakup.ko and >> >> the other depends upon which synthesizer you want to use. So for >> >> example for Apollo you'll need speakup_apollo.ko. You can also use >> >> software synth speakup_soft.ko if you don't have a hardware synth. >> >> All supported synths are mentioned in spkguide linked above. >> >> >> >> If it's a hardware synth then the two kernel modules is all you need. >> >> If it's speakup_soft.ko then some user-space text-to-speech >> >> software will be required. If you can explain where you're getting >> >> stuck then we can help more :) >> >> >> >> Cheers! >> >> Okash >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 7:36 AM, Timothy Breitenfeldt >> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi, i recently installed Kali onto an old laptop. I would really >> >>> like to just run Kali in console mode and completely ignore the >> >>> GUI .To do this, I know I need speakup. I found a couple >> >>> refferences in the archives for this mailing list, but I couldn't >> >>> get it to work with the instructions given. Does anyone have any >> >>> suggestions on how to get speakup running on Kali, as well as how >> >>> to switch from Gnome desktop to just a console? >> >>> >> >>> Thanks, >> >>> >> >>> TJ Breitenfeldt >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> Speakup mailing list >> >>> Speakup@linux-speakup.org >> >>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttp-3A__linux-2Dspeaku >> >>> p.org_cgi-2Dbin_mailman_listinfo_speakup&d=3DDwIGaQ&c=3DRoP1YumCXCga= WH >> >>> vlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=3DRSYNyNFr7Oj1BRE0qW_8pVA2z0qhUeWtOT >> >>> BuXmZp9uE&m=3DEiMTZr4C8e9d2ErmbeyYCptTaFYi0HdGewnOWTnmf4w&s=3Dvgv29p= Cb >> >>> GvnzzG0MMsbC16KKZTQtkg1qaQxn4V-ig7w&e=3D >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Speakup mailing list >> >> Speakup@linux-speakup.org >> >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttp-3A__linux-2Dspeakup >> >> .org_cgi-2Dbin_mailman_listinfo_speakup&d=3DDwIGaQ&c=3DRoP1YumCXCgaWH= vl >> >> ZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=3DRSYNyNFr7Oj1BRE0qW_8pVA2z0qhUeWtOTBuX >> >> mZp9uE&m=3DEiMTZr4C8e9d2ErmbeyYCptTaFYi0HdGewnOWTnmf4w&s=3Dvgv29pCbGv= nz >> >> zG0MMsbC16KKZTQtkg1qaQxn4V-ig7w&e=3D >> > >> > -- >> > Well that's it then, colour me secure! 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