From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: by befuddled.reisers.ca (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 827911EFABD; Tue, 30 Jan 2018 11:12:37 -0500 (EST) Authentication-Results: befuddled.reisers.ca; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b="jDboMrhh"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: from mail-vk0-x230.google.com (mail-vk0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c05::230]) by befuddled.reisers.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6CD711EF9CB for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2018 11:12:34 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-vk0-x230.google.com with SMTP id j204so7093486vke.12 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 2018 08:12:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-transfer-encoding; bh=5dbfArZUHWZjgWJavl4zN2s0Ie39/wxVDr3m1R53EtI=; b=jDboMrhhSaBAAK2feRsPBIA5oQJiZeD/IF3QDmX+g784y94t0C+tress5PS4/lKBbF juuNfZn+uHJDx67Nk94T8FObK2lTEr67J/0KjL8BymX0HWn7JOHU44YWqbFi6wF1Hlqe PzJfehKQHnbB7sQJG9ng3Q6bwec5o+AtlZNbR0yUzMe7IYMnAPyCs9rUWkT6VFC3LT0Z 1HzvqM/TmDuTEfXbSJ72SdeGkqV/WIHxlY9/GJzRxAlNfSbl8rz1mgZsU2yTnPPi0+nL 9tCFJ4QzuZXxsOEBO/SoNt1mr6l5oU+tNQekpZab8NuxZKv0rSySu7J/pt/tSzk+6R7B KXJA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=5dbfArZUHWZjgWJavl4zN2s0Ie39/wxVDr3m1R53EtI=; b=o8NWqNNBJCpm4Fhj4HJ1+hK6FRz/9vpb3PUH/XOYHsNTQtRerutPGtjkL5PvZ79mG1 r5It5Hlwf2nd4Eflu5co+DDDm9wkZWnn07tvXqpSv8k9KIsTYfkSmC/ndCiTAOZ5AJsa kGkA6svIIJ23mLXUpnvSYFz41MorEaycwsYkJY5Wx87TldX42EWg0bJ/XddX1F2ileWn RjUI9LutX716pWiNM/6E39bF0G7hmZEYTt2p/KWcCTz0sXehkKBFJYeQS7IhHIOdWcbo Kk2b6TxFKrn53eGAujDVYoVisOzEReilsmew7aE/6LUiHAM+BxtEfUOPjPL/hCsxMLw2 T54w== X-Gm-Message-State: AKwxytcpMA9Xj7G13gulydDwUk9bRSs4hvk6XMex9T2KRLE8wnr3bKeV Xvx4pVM/GCIeqy4a5modl18BYVvGnQxyMnq95bo= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AH8x2246uGTAw03Fc9/11Gtf3OZRlhhT4sPGzhKbKvLaBiSPq7BwD/GAiDVgbOUxzm59Dk7ivWk84RTJjX1WpeT83ds= X-Received: by 10.31.140.71 with SMTP id o68mr22198755vkd.157.1517328753474; Tue, 30 Jan 2018 08:12:33 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.176.81.116 with HTTP; Tue, 30 Jan 2018 08:12:32 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20180130141246.GC16373@rednote.net> <3fdc3c08-c1fc-4f8e-a303-0282553fc3ed@default> From: Timothy Breitenfeldt Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 08:12:32 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Help with running Speakup on Kali Linux To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.2.4 X-BeenThere: speakup@linux-speakup.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.24 Precedence: list List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2018 16:12:37 -0000 That is good to know. I was afraid that a lot of the tools were not command line based. Oh well. perhaps I will just set up an arch linux vm and play with that. I would still like to learn how to setup speakup, but Kali is probably not the best to do that with. Thanks for all of the replies, TJ Breitenfeldt On 1/30/18, Don Raikes wrote: > Tim, > > A lot of kali's tools need to be run from the GUI, My personal preference= is > to use the mate desktop but that is because I got started in Linux under = the > old gnome 2 interface and haven't gotten used to the new unity/gnome3 > interface. > > Unfortunately when I installed kali into a vm I couldn't get mate with or= ca > to work, so I am trying to debug that problem. > -----Original Message----- > From: Timothy Breitenfeldt [mailto:timothyjb310@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 8:23 AM > To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. > Subject: Re: Help with running Speakup on Kali Linux > > Hi, my apologies for not being clear in my last post. I am using Kali > because I want to learn about the security tools Kali has. I will keep in > mind that arch is a better option for this though. > > The output of > locate speakup.ko > > /lib/modules/4.12.0-kali1-amd66/kernel/drivers/staging/speakup /speakup.k= o > > For now, I am just looking to get eSpeak working on it, my goal is to > install voxin, which is what I am using for orca right now. > Kali does have built in support for a talking installer using speakup. > I believe Kali is very similar to Debian, if that helps at all. > > TJ Breitenfeldt > > On 1/30/18, Don Raikes wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Kali is an odd choice for someone just wanting a console-based linux >> distro. >> Ubuntu server is another good choice. >> >> If, however you are looking for security tools then kali is a good choic= e. >> The kali installer is accessible since it is based on the debian >> talking installer. I haven't checked lately but if I remember right >> speakup does not come pre-installed in kali, although I hope to be >> working on a custom kali version that will be more accessible (when I ha= ve >> a few minutes). >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Janina Sajka [mailto:janina@rednote.net] >> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 7:13 AM >> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. >> >> Subject: Re: Help with running Speakup on Kali Linux >> >> So, I have to ask, why Kali Linux, specifically? It's strikes me as a >> rather oddball choice. >> >> >> The post you reference below isn't particularly pertinent to running >> Speakup, and you still haven't told us whether Kali comes with >> Speakup, or whether it's on you to add it into the installation. Once >> again, what's the output of: >> >> locate speakup.ko >> >> Suggestion: You may have much more success with a distribution like >> Arch which supports Speakup out of the box, and which has a talking >> installation >> available: >> >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps-3A__wiki.archlinux.or >> g_index.php_TalkingArch&d=3DDwIGaQ&c=3DRoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB= 65 >> eapI_JnE&r=3DRSYNyNFr7Oj1BRE0qW_8pVA2z0qhUeWtOTBuXmZp9uE&m=3DEiMTZr4C8e9= d2 >> ErmbeyYCptTaFYi0HdGewnOWTnmf4w&s=3DJUxYZ5Z1WwEmJvd1TAXM8buhPH2soZMlw95_z >> 0Owg2o&e=3D >> >> If you go this way you'll only have the console unless you explicitly >> install a GUI desktop. >> >> There are other choices, but the above is a good way to get to a >> functioning system with minimul fuss. >> >> Janina >> >> Timothy Breitenfeldt writes: >>> Thank you for the replies. I am still fairly new to using Linux, I am >>> a computer science major and am currently taking a C and unix class >>> right now. I now feel comfortable enough with the basics to switch to >>> using only a shell for access. I have played with Linux for a while, >>> and have always preferred the console over Gnome desktop GUI for >>> accessibility. I have almost no vision, and am currently using orca. >>> >>> Here is the link to the post I referred to on getting speakup running >>> on Kali. >>> >>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttp-3A__linux-2Dspeakup.o >>> r >>> g_pipermail_speakup_2015-2DMay_058755.html&d=3DDwIGaQ&c=3DRoP1YumCXCgaW= Hv >>> l >>> ZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=3DRSYNyNFr7Oj1BRE0qW_8pVA2z0qhUeWtOTBuXmZ >>> p >>> 9uE&m=3DEiMTZr4C8e9d2ErmbeyYCptTaFYi0HdGewnOWTnmf4w&s=3Dvmyx_v68qcFfCRe= zo >>> f >>> UMWegnKnffKCl31dEy6rITmwc&e=3D >>> >>> I followed all of the instructions here, and saw no change. Speakup >>> never came up talking at the bootup screen. I tried typing speakup >>> into the terminal while in gnome, but it didn't recognize the command. >>> >>> I don't know much about the kernel yet, it is something I will learn >>> next quarter along with other operating system concepts. >>> >>> Thank you for the tip on switching to console mode. I would assume >>> that I can switch back to Gnome using the same shortcut I used to >>> switched to console mode (ctrl+alt+ 1-6)? >>> >>> Can someone take a look at this post and see if you can help? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> TJ Breitenfeldt >>> >>> On 1/27/18, Kirk Reiser wrote: >>> > To answer the other portion of your query, to move from a gui >>> > console to a text console just type control-alt-f1 or any other of >>> > the function keys from 1 to six. You can learn to kill off gnome >>> > and gdm at a later point if you find you're happy using console mode. >>> > >>> > On Sat, 27 Jan 2018, Okash Khawaja wrote: >>> > >>> >> Hi Timothy, >>> >> >>> >> Welcome to speakup :) >>> >> >>> >> There is >>> >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttp-3A__linux-2Dspeaku >>> >> p.org_spkguide.txt&d=3DDwIGaQ&c=3DRoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB6= 5e >>> >> apI_JnE&r=3DRSYNyNFr7Oj1BRE0qW_8pVA2z0qhUeWtOTBuXmZp9uE&m=3DEiMTZr4C= 8e >>> >> 9d2ErmbeyYCptTaFYi0HdGewnOWTnmf4w&s=3D2x78Ze1FfDGA2IUei89_yMxCCO9K_R >>> >> nin6X8pL2i0yU&e=3D >>> >> which should help. >>> >> Basically you need two kernel modules loaded. One is speakup.ko >>> >> and the other depends upon which synthesizer you want to use. So >>> >> for example for Apollo you'll need speakup_apollo.ko. You can also >>> >> use software synth speakup_soft.ko if you don't have a hardware synt= h. >>> >> All supported synths are mentioned in spkguide linked above. >>> >> >>> >> If it's a hardware synth then the two kernel modules is all you need= . >>> >> If it's speakup_soft.ko then some user-space text-to-speech >>> >> software will be required. If you can explain where you're getting >>> >> stuck then we can help more :) >>> >> >>> >> Cheers! >>> >> Okash >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 7:36 AM, Timothy Breitenfeldt >>> >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, i recently installed Kali onto an old laptop. I would really >>> >>> like to just run Kali in console mode and completely ignore the >>> >>> GUI .To do this, I know I need speakup. I found a couple >>> >>> refferences in the archives for this mailing list, but I couldn't >>> >>> get it to work with the instructions given. Does anyone have any >>> >>> suggestions on how to get speakup running on Kali, as well as how >>> >>> to switch from Gnome desktop to just a console? >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> >>> >>> TJ Breitenfeldt >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Speakup mailing list >>> >>> Speakup@linux-speakup.org >>> >>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttp-3A__linux-2Dspeak >>> >>> u >>> >>> p.org_cgi-2Dbin_mailman_listinfo_speakup&d=3DDwIGaQ&c=3DRoP1YumCXCg= aW >>> >>> H >>> >>> vlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE&r=3DRSYNyNFr7Oj1BRE0qW_8pVA2z0qhUeWtO >>> >>> T >>> >>> BuXmZp9uE&m=3DEiMTZr4C8e9d2ErmbeyYCptTaFYi0HdGewnOWTnmf4w&s=3Dvgv29= pC >>> >>> b GvnzzG0MMsbC16KKZTQtkg1qaQxn4V-ig7w&e=3D >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> Speakup mailing list >>> >> Speakup@linux-speakup.org >>> >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttp-3A__linux-2Dspeaku >>> >> p >>> >> .org_cgi-2Dbin_mailman_listinfo_speakup&d=3DDwIGaQ&c=3DRoP1YumCXCgaW= Hv 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