From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from bay103-dav1.bay103.hotmail.com ([65.54.174.73] helo=hotmail.com) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1Fc3L5-0001qR-00 for ; Fri, 05 May 2006 12:39:35 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 5 May 2006 09:39:28 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 80.1.72.245 by BAY103-DAV1.phx.gbl with DAV; Fri, 05 May 2006 16:39:23 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [80.1.72.245] X-Originating-Email: [mikster4@msn.com] X-Sender: mikster4@msn.com From: "Michael Whapples" To: "Laura Eaves" , "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." References: <000f01c66fca$22e8d900$6401a8c0@dell> <0cdf01c66fd7$f3565150$8001a8c0@Charmin> Subject: Re: eSpeak abbreviation question Date: Fri, 5 May 2006 17:39:20 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 May 2006 16:39:28.0534 (UTC) FILETIME=[7A2A5B60:01C67062] X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8rc1 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 May 2006 16:39:35 -0000 Windows screen readers are another thing, they normally have there own dictionaries as well as those in the synths. Possibly for those who like abrieviations, that is good, particularly if it is like in window-eyes, where different dictionaries can be loaded depending on the application being used, so for things like the internet where you may want those abrieviations you can have them, but when in an editor where you may do something like programming you can have them turned off automatically. Don't know if any linux screen reader has this type of functionality, I doubt the design of speakup would lend itself to this without the aid of some other programs. From Michael Whapples ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laura Eaves" To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 1:07 AM Subject: Re: eSpeak abbreviation question > Hi all -- I have been a lurker on this list for a long time, but thought > I'd > break my silence for a moment to make a suggestion. In the case of jaws, > I > believe the acronyms are specially handled by putting the words in the > dictionary. I don't know about espeak and other synths you are talking > about, but if there is a dictionary for them somewhere with the > abbreviations in them perhaps you could just edit it to remove the > abbreviations that bother you... I know this sounds obvious, but I > thought > I'd suggest it. If the synths have translations of abbreviations like DR > hardcoded in the software, you can do the next best thing of entering the > words in your dictionary -- say, translate "DR" to " D R". > HTH. > I am away from home and don't have access to linux at the moment so can't > poke around and test my assertions. But I know this problem is annoying > as > I run into the same thing on my cell phone -- Dr on my cell phone is > translated to "Drive". I would prefer a simple ""D r" being spoken. > Good luck. > --le > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Adam Myrow" > To: "'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'" > > Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 6:28 PM > Subject: RE: eSpeak abbreviation question > > > Well, I have the Dectalk USB, and it does this sort of thing. It's pretty > annoying when it gets abbreviations wrong. I remember that JAWS for DOS > could turn off the Dectalk abbreviations, but JFW can't. The Accent PC > also > has abbreviations, but apparently Speakup knows how to turn them off. > Probably the best option is to have a command that can be sent to the > synthesizer to disable abbreviation processing. I also agree that such > processing should be case sensitive. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > >