From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from bay0-omc2-s9.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.145]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1G2SHf-0003s9-00 for ; Mon, 17 Jul 2006 08:33:11 -0400 Received: from hotmail.com ([65.54.174.85]) by bay0-omc2-s9.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Mon, 17 Jul 2006 05:32:40 -0700 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 17 Jul 2006 05:32:40 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 128.243.220.21 by BAY103-DAV13.phx.gbl with DAV; Mon, 17 Jul 2006 12:32:40 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [128.243.220.21] X-Originating-Email: [mikster4@msn.com] X-Sender: mikster4@msn.com From: "Michael Whapples" To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." References: <20060714182943.GA26714@gmx.net><07ef01c6a85d$64a270b0$6501a8c0@Charmin> <87fyh0n5rl.fsf@gmail.com> Subject: Re: laptops with serial ports Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 13:32:37 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Jul 2006 12:32:40.0655 (UTC) FILETIME=[182315F0:01C6A99D] X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8rc1 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 12:33:11 -0000 GRML can be found at www.grml.org I think it contains speakup in the standard CD, well it says the following in the features section at their site "usability by the visually impaired right out of the box" so it must have some screenreader. I just don't know as I haven't used it myself, but have read messages to this list before about GRML. Another project that is a bootable CD version of linux with software speech output is oralux at www.oralux.org but I think their aims are slightly different, to simplify linux for the newby. From Michael Whapples ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dart Vader" To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 6:45 AM Subject: Re: laptops with serial ports > > Hi, Michael. > > Could you, please, tell the url, where I can read (download image) about > GRML or similar things. > > Thanks for your attention. > WBR, Roman > out > >>>>>> " " == Michael Whapples writes: > > > My comment about the sound card was more to do with using something > > like GRML, where the CD contains sound drivers, speakup and software > > speech components, so Alex would be able to install a distribution of > > linux using software speech. Admittedly this is not quite as good as > > using a hardware synth and speakup for install as it requires the > > system to boot without any problems (at least problems that don't > > prevent it booting and don't affect the sound card), before speech > > can be started. I would guess that it would be easier to find a > > modern laptop that meets those requirements than the requirement of a > > serial port (particularly considering his budget). > > > From Michael Whapples > > > Laura Eaves writes: > >>> Doesn't the sound card require a driver? At what point is that >>> loaded? The serial port is probably not essential for any purpose >>> other than boot time access, so for other peripherals a USB or pcmcia >>> to serial adaptor is sufficient. --le >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Whapples" >>> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." >>> Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 5:57 PM >>> Subject: Re: laptops with serial ports >>> >>> >>> What is the reason for serial port? If it is to be able to install >>> linux with speakup, then would it be possible to choose something >>> with a suitable sound card and use software speech in something like >>> GRML. I think people were saying in discussions about GRML that it is >>> possible to install debian from that, and it should most certainly be >>> possible to install gentoo with that (as I think all the install >>> stuff is in the stage file that you decompress to the hard disk and >>> and the speech is provided by the linux CD). >>> >>> As I remember last year when my old HP laptop got stolen, it was very >>> hard to find a replacement with a serial port (although I did find >>> one at Dell, the inspiron 510m (I think no longer in >>> production)). Sorry I can't help too much with that part, all the >>> ones I can find seem out of your price limit (evesham computers have >>> one with a serial port, but approx 1200 www.evesham.com). May be one >>> of these companies that can build laptops to order could do >>> something, but I think they will be too expensive if you need to >>> stick to that limit. >>> >>> If you want the serial port for other things, then is there other >>> solutions with various adaptors from other ports suitable? >>> >>> From Michael Whapples ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Snow" >>> To: Sent: Friday, July >>> 14, 2006 7:29 PM Subject: ot: laptops with serial ports >>> >>> >>>> Hi All, >>>> >>>> Looking at retiring my old Latitude cpt in favor of something a bit >>>> faster. What current laptops do people here have experience with? >>>> My main requirement is something with a serial port, and I'd like to >>>> find something under $1,000. Any input would be apreciated. >>>> >>>> -- MSDOS didn't get as bad as it is overnight -- it took over ten >>>> years of careful development. -- dmeggins@aix1.uottawa.ca >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list >>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>> >>> >>> >>> > > > _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > >