From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from vms173003pub.verizon.net (vms173003pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.3]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D0A8C1A0B9 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 16:22:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from ownercb76d9f6c ([unknown] [71.174.176.47]) by vms173003.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0LGM008YGLVG5K81@vms173003.mailsrvcs.net> for speakup@braille.uwo.ca; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 15:18:53 -0600 (CST) From: "Albert Sten-Clanton" To: "'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'" References: <4D58F18F.6040103@aim.com> <20110214092915.GE8120@const.bordeaux.inria.fr> <4D598790.2040406@aim.com> Subject: RE: Speakup with vim Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 16:18:50 -0500 Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-reply-to: <4D598790.2040406@aim.com> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 Thread-index: AcvMgbbO2W/6jS0hTu2dHx4lAncuDQACmd0g X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 21:23:02 -0000 I liked the way Speakup worked with Emacs better than the way it works = with VIM. I started out using Emacs. I found the main drawback in Emacs for = me to be the multi-key combinations needed to do a lot of things: it = actually was easier for me to adjust to Vim's different modes, although = forgetting which one you're in can punch your face good. Also, I could not seem to find in Emacs the means of saving word wrap and margin settings I = wanted. I may be wrong, but my impression is that, like Emacspeak, Emacs itself = has quite the learning curve. Just my wooden penny's worth. Al=20 -----Original Message----- From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca = [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Michael Whapples Sent: Monday, February 14, 2011 2:51 PM To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Subject: Re: Speakup with vim Thanks, that solves the specific issue. I still wonder if there is more which can be done to make vim work better, eg. using j and k (I can = imagine they actually are quicker to use than cursor keys when you are used to = them) speakup doesn't speak the new line you navigate to unless the screen is scrolling. Is this as good as speech output gets with vim? Might it be worth me = giving emacs (may be with emacspeak) more time? Michael Whapples On -10/01/37 20:59, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Michael Whapples, le Mon 14 Feb 2011 09:10:39 +0000, a =E9crit : >> The one problem I notice most is that when I go into insert mode as I = >> type speakup seems to read from the status line rather than the=20 >> characters typed. Also related, when using j and k to move lines=20 >> speakup reads the status line as well rather than the line being = moved to. > See http://brl.thefreecat.org/wiki/vi to fix these. > > Samuel > _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup