From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from userp1040.oracle.com (userp1040.oracle.com [156.151.31.81]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 043B0C1A173 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 16:38:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from acsinet21.oracle.com (acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2) with ESMTP id qA5Lc6GM017446 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 5 Nov 2012 21:38:07 GMT Received: from acsmt358.oracle.com (acsmt358.oracle.com [141.146.40.158]) by acsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id qA5Lc5F3007043 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 5 Nov 2012 21:38:05 GMT Received: from abhmt108.oracle.com (abhmt108.oracle.com [141.146.116.60]) by acsmt358.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id qA5Lc54A018311; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 15:38:05 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <9af595cd-b6f9-4453-acd3-617395966a0f@default> Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 13:37:36 -0800 (PST) From: Don Raikes Sender: Don Raikes To: ylees , "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Subject: RE: Speakup for Oracle Enterprise Linux References: > < In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.7 (607090) [OL 12.0.6661.5003 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237] X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2012 21:38:18 -0000 Young, I am not currently using oracle enterprise Linux with orca, although I did = a quick test with it about a month ago, and it was fairly accessible. The biggest issue for using the Oracle database on Linux (no matter which d= istro), is that you need to have the java accessibility wrapper installed i= nto the jvm so that orca can interact with the database installer which is = written in java. =20 I am assuming, that you are wanting the full-blown version of the database = not just the express database since it lacks some of the functionality that= the full database has. The express database can be installed simply by in= stalling a package on both redhat/fedora distros and debian/ubuntu distros. I will be out of the office most of this week, but when I return I will be = installing Enterprise Linux along with a full-blown 12C database so I will = be able to give more detailed feedback at that point. -----Original Message----- From: ylees [mailto:ylees@masonlive.gmu.edu]=20 Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 2:32 PM To: Don Raikes; Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Subject: RE: Speakup for Oracle Enterprise Linux Hello Don, So are you currently using the Oracle Enterprise Linux with Orca? Is the O= rca accessible enough so a blind person can install, create, maintain, and = manage the Oracle database Under OEL using just the Orca without too much i= ssue? Since I've never used the linux before, I'm trying to gather as much= information as possible before I decide which linux distribution is right = choice for my situation. Thanks. ________________________________________ From: Don Raikes [DON.RAIKES@ORACLE.COM] Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 4:45 PM To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Cc: ylees Subject: RE: Speakup for Oracle Enterprise Linux Hi all, I didn't read the entire thread before my prior post. EM and most of the oracle applications are now written to be used via the w= eb, so that shouldn't be a problem either from a windows pc or from firefox= under EL with orca. Sqlplus is a command-line client, so simply use orca and open a gnome-termi= nal window and run sqlplus in it. I can verify that this works well. Beca= use I need to setup an EL virtual machine for some of my testing, I will ch= eck on getting Speakup to work as I have some time and get back to the list= about it. -----Original Message----- From: Willem van der Walt [mailto:wvdwalt@csir.co.za] Sent: Monday, November 05, 2012 1:38 AM To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Cc: ylees Subject: Re: Speakup for Oracle Enterprise Linux Hi, If you can find the kernel headers that correspond to the kernel running on= the Oracle Enterprise linux, you should be able to build speakup for that = box even if the staging modules are not present. You can however do most things through a remote ssh connection to an oracle= server. When you talk about Oracle applications, I suppose you refer to things like= Oracle financials etc. My own experience with those which was long ago, indicated that Oracle's ap= ps are notoriusly inaccessible. Unless life in the Oracle world has changed a lot, I do not see the need to= be able to work on the Oracle server directly with spee=3Dch. Use ssh from= a normal linux PC for that. Others with more reacent Oracle experience should confirm/deny this. HTH, Willem On Sun, 4 Nov 2012, Kirk Reiser wrote: > Hello Young: I am affraid I can't answer your question about whether=20 > speakup is available under Oricle Enterprise Linux. My suggestion=20 > there is that you make this same request on the speakup mailing list. > There are many folks on the list that use various distributions of=20 > linux with speakup. If the Oricle distribution enables the kernel's=20 > staging tree then speakup should work with it by just loading the=20 > appropriate modules. > > The screen reader most often used with graphics "X11" is orca. They=20 > have their own mailing list which I recommend you joining as well if=20 > you wish to use X. > > Good luck with your persuits and welcome to the gnu/linux community. > I find it is a much more satisfying group of people than the Windows=20 > community. > > Kirk > > On Sun, 4 Nov 2012, ylees wrote: > >> Dear Kirk, >> >> My name is Young Lee. I'm a visually impaired person who's currently=20 >> in a process of becoming an Oracle certified master. However in=20 >> order for me to pass the final step for becoming an OCM, I must be=20 >> able to use Oracle Enterprise linux and Oracle applications running=20 >> under that OEL. Is it also possible to install Speakup under Oracle=20 >> Enterprise linux? If this is possible, could you please point me to=20 >> some reference on detailed instructions for how to install the=20 >> Speakup under OEL? Also, how well does the Speakup work with=20 >> applications with graphical user interface? Does it work as well as=20 >> Jaws? Is it possible for a blind person to use Oracle applications=20 >> under linux using the Speakup? Your response will be greatly=20 >> appreciated as this will be a valuable information in pursuing my=20 >> career as Oracle DBA. Thank you in advance and I'll look forward to hea= ring back from you. >> >> >> >> sincerely, >> >> Young Lee > > -- > Kirk Reiser The Computer Braille Facility > e-mail: kirk@braille.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario > phone: (519) 661-3061 > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > -- > This message is subject to the CSIR's copyright terms and conditions,=20 > e-mail legal notice, and implemented Open Document Format (ODF)=20 > standard. The full disclaimer details can be found at http://www.csir.co.= za/disclaimer.html. > > This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by=20 > MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. > > Please consider the environment before printing this email. > > _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup