From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from shelley4.webville.net (shelley4.webville.net [66.187.156.154]) by befuddled.reisers.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A30841EF6AE for ; Sun, 26 May 2013 16:16:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from MB13C.webville.net (66.187.156.155) by shelley4.webville.net (66.187.156.154) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.123.3; Sun, 26 May 2013 16:16:35 -0400 Received: from MB13A.webville.net (2002:42bb:9ca7::42bb:9ca7) by mb13c.webville.net (2002:42bb:9c9b::42bb:9c9b) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.620.29; Sun, 26 May 2013 16:16:43 -0400 Received: from MB13A.webville.net ([fe80::8cec:1647:38bc:6a9e]) by mb13a.webville.net ([fe80::8cec:1647:38bc:6a9e%13]) with mapi id 15.00.0620.020; Sun, 26 May 2013 16:16:43 -0400 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=D8yvind_Lode?= To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Subject: RE: Accessible image backup and restore program? Thread-Topic: Accessible image backup and restore program? Thread-Index: AQHOWjRnRd2RQPdEo0+w0a+MARoPUZkYCtwAgAACxoD//8+zsA== Date: Sun, 26 May 2013 20:16:42 +0000 Message-ID: <90aa3b335b8e4f6abe98c43f10eb89dd@mb13a.webville.net> References: <51A242CF.80406@insightbb.com> <51A2556F.9040800@tysdomain.com> In-Reply-To: <51A2556F.9040800@tysdomain.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [81.166.42.2] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: speakup@linux-speakup.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 26 May 2013 20:16:48 -0000 Hi: Dd would work just fine but waste a lot of space since dd copies every sect= or on the disk regardless if it is in use or not. So if you use dd to make a image of your harddrive which is a 2TB drive the= image would be 2TB. This is true regardless of how much data the drive contains. But you can use gzip etc as mentioned and you probably will get a much smal= ler image but it is extremely slow. But since dd copies sector by sector it does not care about which filesyste= m is on the drive/partition. In other words dd can be used to clone any operating system. It will clone as I said sector by sector but extremely slow. Personally I use fsarchiver to make backups of both Linux partitions and Wi= ndows. Fsarchiver (file system archiver) works at the file level which means it cl= ones the filesystem and NTFS is supported. Fsarchiver is very fast and has a clever algorithm. It compresses the output image and multithreading is supported which makes = it very fast on system with multiple cpu cores. But you have to manually enable this feature. You use the -j option for that. -j4 will use all 4 cores on a quad core system both for compression (clonin= g) and for decompression (when you restore your system). Fsarchiver will clone a Windows partition just fine but it will not clone y= our MBR or GPT. So I use dd to make a backup of the MBR and in case of a GPT partitioned dr= ive I use sgdisk to make a backup of the GPT. I use GRML with software speech which includes all the tools I mentioned ab= ove. So as a quick walkthrough on how to clone Windows 7: * Boot GRML Live CD/USB on the Windows 7 machine you want to clone. * My Windows 7 installation is on a SSD and it is 2 partitions (the system = reserved partition which is 100MB and partition 2 holding the OS and data). * use dd to backup your MBR or sgdisk to backup your GPT if you are using G= PT. * use fsarchiver to clone Windows 7 (in my case 2 partitions). * you need a separate HDD or external HDD etc to store the image on When you need to recover your system: * boot GRML * in case of a damaged MBR or GPT use dd or sgdisk to restore MBR or GPT re= spectively * if your MBR or GPT is just fine you simply need to just restore your Wind= ows 7 partitions from the fsarchiver image Ok, I am rambling... For more info see links below. www.grml.org www.fsarchiver.org -----Original Message----- From: Speakup [mailto:speakup-bounces@linux-speakup.org] On Behalf Of Littl= efield, Tyler Sent: 26. mai 2013 20:33 To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Subject: Re: Accessible image backup and restore program? Jason: There is not an accessible windows boot cd as far as I'm aware. What you=20 could do though is just dd your partitions and pipe t hat through to=20 bzip2. It's moderately slow, but you could store it on a nas/passport=20 drive/etc and be set. HTH, On 5/26/2013 12:23 PM, Kirk Reiser wrote: > I can't answer your question about recovery images for Windows, but > grml is a good general purpose rescue image. It will handle either > software synths such as espeakup which is part of the system or serial > synths. > > Check it out at www.grml.org. > > On Sun, 26 May 2013, Jayson Smith wrote: > >> A bit off-topic here, but somewhat related to Linux. >> >> For several years, I've been using Image for Windows/Linux as my=20 >> Windows backup/restore solution. I liked it because, in case of total=20 >> boot drive failure where the system was completely unbootable, I=20 >> could boot up Image for Linux which includes Speakup, use my DECtalk=20 >> Express, and restore. Now, though, I've upgraded to Windows 7, and my=20 >> computer has exactly zero serial ports. So I can't use my old boot CD=20 >> any more, unless it would work with a USB to serial convertor. >> >> What do you recommend for a bootable, accessible backup and restore=20 >> solution? Does whatever you recommend use software speech? I don't=20 >> assume anyone's come up with an accessible bootable Windows CD? Does=20 >> such a bootable CD work with USB sound devices? Also, in all our=20 >> computers, there's an internal sound card we're not actively using in=20 >> Windows. Would any Linux CD try to use that first? >> Thanks for any thoughts! >> Jayson >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@linux-speakup.org >> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> > --=20 Take care, Ty http://tds-solutions.net The aspen project: a barebones light-weight mud engine: http://code.google.com/p/aspenmud He that will not reason is a bigot; he that cannot reason is a fool; he tha= t dares not reason is a slave. _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@linux-speakup.org http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup