From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from spaceymail-a3.g.dreamhost.com (caibbdcaaaaf.dreamhost.com [208.113.200.5]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A0F810A3E for ; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:49:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tdsdev (unknown [168.103.85.95]) by spaceymail-a3.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78EA3194EA7 for ; Thu, 19 Mar 2009 13:49:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8FD61878392D45CA895E7FFC9A2D95CA@tdsdev> From: "Tyler Littlefield" To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." References: <20090319202822.CC7ED1738DB@fws.pl.eu.org><49C2ACAE.7010703@sjc.ox.ac.uk> <20090319214332.E19031738DB@fws.pl.eu.org> Subject: Re: Booting the linux. Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 14:49:18 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 20:49:25 -0000 in order to make the bios accessible, you would need to get the source to the firmware, hack it, and flash the new version. Assuming your hack goes *as planned*, you'll have bios. If not, you've got a paperweight. and the bios doesn't have drivers. It can interact with the serial port through interupts, but getting something in to CMOS or rom is going to be pretty hard to do. Your not going to have enough room on the CMOS or ROM unless you have a specially crafted motherboard to give you memory for storing something like a synthasizer, or drivers to access it. Thanks, Tyler Littlefield Web: tysdomain.com email: tyler@tysdomain.com My programs don't have bugs, they're called randomly added features. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 3:43 PM Subject: Re: Booting the linux. > Alastair Irving wrote: > >> Hi >> >> For most things grub is useable. By putting a bell character in the >> title line of one of the menu entries you can get a system beep when >> grub comes up and also when the given entry is selected or deselected. >> By looking at the grub.conf you know what's in the menu and therefore >> its just a case of counting the number of up/down arrows to get to the >> right entry. Admitedly I wouldn't want to do anything more advanced, >> for example giving specific kernel parameters to grub, but for this you >> can just put a new entry in the config file. >> >> Bios is as far as I know always totally inaccessible. >> >> HTH >> >> Alastair >> >> webczat@fws.pl.eu.org wrote: >> > Hey. >> > >> > Does anyone know how to use grub without help from a sighted person? >> > (lilo works well but grub is probably too difficult for blind user). >> > >> > Can i sometimes change bios configuration without sighted person help? >> > for example some tricks with the serial console or similar. >> > I have apollo synthesizer. >> > Have you any idea? >> > Thangs. >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Speakup mailing list >> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > Why bios can't be accessible? bios has serial port drivers! > So why not? bios speech can for example speak bios post (only at request) > and permit entering bios setup. > This should also disable after loading the bootloader, before starting it. > Are there any projects on this? > And no, i can't use bell character. reason is simple: i haven't any > onboard pc speaker. > Thangs. > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup