From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from fed1rmmtao103.cox.net ([68.230.241.43]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1HzbRC-00049C-00 for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2007 12:47:46 -0400 Received: from fed1rmimpo01.cox.net ([70.169.32.71]) by fed1rmmtao103.cox.net (InterMail vM.7.08.02.01 201-2186-121-102-20070209) with ESMTP id <20070616164716.HHKR1594.fed1rmmtao103.cox.net@fed1rmimpo01.cox.net> for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2007 12:47:16 -0400 Received: from bonus-eruptus ([72.198.87.190]) by fed1rmimpo01.cox.net with bizsmtp id CGnE1X00L46QN3s0000000; Sat, 16 Jun 2007 12:47:15 -0400 From: cmbrannon@cox.net (C.M. Brannon) To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Subject: pdf, javascript, and flash was Re: hello References: <001901c7b022$2596e090$ca01a8c0@quark> Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 11:44:08 -0500 In-Reply-To: <001901c7b022$2596e090$ca01a8c0@quark> (Sina Bahram's message of "Sat, 16 Jun 2007 10:25:09 -0400") Message-ID: <87wsy3n92f.fsf_-_@cox.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/21.4 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 16:47:46 -0000 "Sina Bahram" writes: > Javascript, pdf, and flash all have purely accessible ways of being > accessed. PDF's especially have come a long way, flash is quickly catching > up, and javascript only causes problems during certain events where keyboard ... > I actually think such technologies should be increased, or whatever is to JavaScript is a bad idea. Do you really want random people running random code on your box? Quite a few firewall administrators agree with me about this, because they don't allow it. Unfortunately, we have to live with it. PDF has one use-case IMHO: the creation of printable documents. I use it quite often for this purpose. However, storing documents in PDF is a step backward, rather than a step forward. Why? PDF is *not* a machine-readable format. HTML, ASCII, RTF, and even Microsoft Word are machine-readable. This does not hold for PDF and PostScript. Unfortunately, many people seem to use PDF for document storage, even though it is not suited to this task. As for Flash, I cannot say much about it. From what I know, its purpose is the transmission of animated movies. I doubt those are terribly accessible. Regardless, sending me movies that I cannot see is a waste of my bandwidth. Finally, Flash is a proprietary format. Why should I care about it? -- Chris