From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from sci.smolensk.ru ([213.59.172.3]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1DIS8V-0007DN-00 for ; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 10:01:04 -0400 Received: from starlight.net ([213.137.241.132]) by sci.smolensk.ru (8.11.6/8.9.3) with ESMTP id j34DxC801523 for ; Mon, 4 Apr 2005 17:59:13 +0400 Received: from fleytin by starlight.net with local (masqmail 0.2.20) id 1DIS2t-1BW-00 for ; Mon, 04 Apr 2005 17:55:15 +0400 To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." From: "Sergei V. Fleytin" In-Reply-To: (mikster4@msn.com's message of "Thu, 10 Mar 2005 21:51:54 +0000") References: <200503102131.j2ALVnLv004792@ms-smtp-01-eri0.southeast.rr.com> Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 17:55:15 +0400 Message-ID: <87hdimd4u4.fsf@starlight.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1007 (Gnus v5.10.7) Emacs/21.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: getting off my windows dependency X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: fleytin@yandex.ru, "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 14:01:04 -0000 Hello, listers, >>>>> "m" == mikster4 writes: m> I was maening more that it is not how the web browser works itself, m> it is something inserted by the screen reader. Normally you can't m> cursor around the page in a web browser, only jump between the m> controls. Maybe it is my mistake, but I thought the person was m> expecting this behaviour to be in the web browser. I'd like to make some comment concerning this topic. Both links2 and elinks allow users to navigate within a page like in an editor. Links2 provide what they call "braille terminal" wich, in my opinion is a very cool and convenient feature. Elinks also can be customize to behave in similar fashion though it would not be as blind friendly as braille terminal in links2. But elinks has so many cool features, including tab browsing, that it really worth our attention. Below is a fragment from my elinks.conf wich allow to move by characters and lines within elinks using vi-like keybindings. bind "main" "k" = "move-cursor-up" bind "main" "l" = "move-cursor-right" bind "main" "h" = "move-cursor-left" bind "main" "j" = "move-cursor-down" set ui.show_status_bar = 0 I hope it would be useful for someone. -- With best regards, Sergei.