From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: by befuddled.reisers.ca (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 67B9E1EF6EA; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 10:32:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hurricane.the-brannons.com (hurricane.the-brannons.com [IPv6:2001:470:1:41:a800:ff:fe3e:bc77]) by befuddled.reisers.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6073F1EF6DE for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 10:32:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (71-38-154-164.ptld.qwest.net [71.38.154.164]) by hurricane.the-brannons.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8CAA877CD1 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 07:32:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Brannon To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Subject: Re: the push to get rid of CONFIG_VT in the kernel and the future of Speakup References: <87zjd64c16.fsf@mushroom.PK5001Z> <543593E4.5040400@gmail.com> <54359B9E.10203@verizon.net> <21407.1412799969@ccs.covici.com> <20141009021859.GA27091@gregn.net> <543696F6.7090109@math.wisc.edu> Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2014 07:32:21 -0700 In-Reply-To: <543696F6.7090109@math.wisc.edu> (John G. Heim's message of "Thu, 09 Oct 2014 09:08:54 -0500") Message-ID: <87h9zd2u16.fsf@mushroom.PK5001Z> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.2.4 X-BeenThere: speakup@linux-speakup.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2014 14:32:29 -0000 "John G. Heim" writes: > Here at the University of Wisconsin, there > are a lot of linux systems admin jobs. And for the majority of them, > it would be a big problem if you couldn't access the boot messages. Is the serial console support not appropriate / acceptable? When I first started out with Linux, I had a Braille 'n Speak, and I used it as a dumb terminal. If I started the serial console at boot, I got to see all of the boot messages from the kernel, regardless of whether I had Speakup. It's not really a good way to work, when compared to Speakup, but for tasks such as diagnosing boot failures, it was usable. If I worked professionally as an on-site sysadmin, I might try to do something similar today. The BNS isn't manufactured any more, but I'm sure there's something that would work as well. -- Chris