From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from gate.oldbank.com ([193.41.239.37]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1G2Lvv-0000f8-00 for ; Mon, 17 Jul 2006 01:46:19 -0400 Received: from oldbank.com (mail.oldbank.com [193.41.239.1]) by gate.oldbank.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k6H5k91w031242 for ; Mon, 17 Jul 2006 08:46:11 +0300 Received: from MOROK by oldbank.com (MDaemon.PRO.v7.1.2.R) with ESMTP id md50004019959.msg for ; Mon, 17 Jul 2006 08:31:09 +0300 Received: from a1010 by MOROK with local (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1G2LvS-0000Jc-Ct for speakup@braille.uwo.ca; Mon, 17 Jul 2006 08:45:50 +0300 From: Dart Vader To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Subject: Re: laptops with serial ports References: <20060714182943.GA26714@gmx.net> <07ef01c6a85d$64a270b0$6501a8c0@Charmin> Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 08:45:50 +0300 In-Reply-To: (Michael Whapples's message of "Sun, 16 Jul 2006 17:39:33 +0100") Message-ID: <87fyh0n5rl.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.110004 (No Gnus v0.4) Emacs/21.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Processed: oldbank.com, Mon, 17 Jul 2006 08:31:09 +0300 (not processed: message from trusted or authenticated source) X-MDRemoteIP: 193.41.239.253 X-Return-Path: ak47.ataka@gmail.com X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.2/1600/Sat Jul 15 18:03:46 2006 on gate.oldbank.com X-Virus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8rc1 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 05:46:19 -0000 Hi, Michael. Could you, please, tell the url, where I can read (download image) about GRML or similar things. Thanks for your attention. WBR, Roman out >>>>> " " == Michael Whapples writes: > My comment about the sound card was more to do with using something > like GRML, where the CD contains sound drivers, speakup and software > speech components, so Alex would be able to install a distribution of > linux using software speech. Admittedly this is not quite as good as > using a hardware synth and speakup for install as it requires the > system to boot without any problems (at least problems that don't > prevent it booting and don't affect the sound card), before speech > can be started. I would guess that it would be easier to find a > modern laptop that meets those requirements than the requirement of a > serial port (particularly considering his budget). > From Michael Whapples > Laura Eaves writes: >> Doesn't the sound card require a driver? At what point is that >> loaded? The serial port is probably not essential for any purpose >> other than boot time access, so for other peripherals a USB or pcmcia >> to serial adaptor is sufficient. --le >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Whapples" >> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." >> Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 5:57 PM >> Subject: Re: laptops with serial ports >> >> >> What is the reason for serial port? If it is to be able to install >> linux with speakup, then would it be possible to choose something >> with a suitable sound card and use software speech in something like >> GRML. I think people were saying in discussions about GRML that it is >> possible to install debian from that, and it should most certainly be >> possible to install gentoo with that (as I think all the install >> stuff is in the stage file that you decompress to the hard disk and >> and the speech is provided by the linux CD). >> >> As I remember last year when my old HP laptop got stolen, it was very >> hard to find a replacement with a serial port (although I did find >> one at Dell, the inspiron 510m (I think no longer in >> production)). Sorry I can't help too much with that part, all the >> ones I can find seem out of your price limit (evesham computers have >> one with a serial port, but approx 1200 www.evesham.com). May be one >> of these companies that can build laptops to order could do >> something, but I think they will be too expensive if you need to >> stick to that limit. >> >> If you want the serial port for other things, then is there other >> solutions with various adaptors from other ports suitable? >> >> From Michael Whapples ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alex Snow" >> To: Sent: Friday, July >> 14, 2006 7:29 PM Subject: ot: laptops with serial ports >> >> >>> Hi All, >>> >>> Looking at retiring my old Latitude cpt in favor of something a bit >>> faster. What current laptops do people here have experience with? >>> My main requirement is something with a serial port, and I'd like to >>> find something under $1,000. Any input would be apreciated. >>> >>> -- MSDOS didn't get as bad as it is overnight -- it took over ten >>> years of careful development. -- dmeggins@aix1.uottawa.ca >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup