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From: Chris Brannon <chris@the-brannons.com>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux."
	<speakup@linux-speakup.org>
Subject: Re: the push to get rid of CONFIG_VT in the kernel and the future of Speakup
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2014 12:03:50 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <878ukp2hgp.fsf@mushroom.PK5001Z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5436B890.9000803@math.wisc.edu> (John G. Heim's message of "Thu, 09 Oct 2014 11:32:16 -0500")

"John G. Heim" <jheim@math.wisc.edu> writes:

> On 10/09/14 09:32, Chris Brannon wrote:
>> "John G. Heim" <jheim@math.wisc.edu> writes:
>>
>>> Here at the University of Wisconsin, there
>>> are a lot of linux systems admin jobs. And for the majority of them,
>>> it would be a big problem if you couldn't access the boot messages.
>>
>> Is the serial console support not appropriate / acceptable?
>
>
> But I'd like to know with absolute
> certainty that the proposed change to the linux kernel wouldn't also
> effect a serial console.

Well, I can't give you absolute certainty, but I suspect that the
kernel support for serial consoles is here to stay.  Part of the
difference is the amount of code.  The virtual console subsystem is a
lot more complicated than the simple serial console used for boot
messages, because it has to provide a full VT100 terminal
emulator in kernelspace.  On the other hand, the serial console doesn't
have to emulate anything, since the thing on the other end of the cable
is a real terminal of some sort.  All it has to do is blast the kernel
messages out the serial port.  So the main difference is
complexity.

-- Chris

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Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
 Chris Brannon
 ` Deedra Waters
   ` Hart Larry
   ` Brian Buhrow
   ` Igor Gueths
 ` Kyle
   ` Al Sten-Clanton
     ` covici
       ` Gregory Nowak
         ` John G. Heim
           ` Chris Brannon
             ` covici
             ` John G. Heim
               ` Chris Brannon [this message]
           ` Gregory Nowak
     ` Kyle
       ` Al Sten-Clanton
         ` Jupiter rocks; was " Cleverson Casarin Uliana
           ` Chris Brannon
             ` Kyle
           ` Hart Larry
           ` Kyle
             ` Cleverson Casarin Uliana
         ` Kyle
         ` Samuel Thibault
       ` Kelly Prescott
         ` Janina Sajka
         ` John G. Heim
           ` trouble shooting, was: " Gregory Nowak
           ` Brian Buhrow
     ` Deedra Waters
       ` John G. Heim
         ` Mike Ray
         ` Trevor Astrope
           ` John G. Heim
     ` John G. Heim
       ` Glenn
         ` John G. Heim
           ` Janina Sajka
             ` covici
             ` Chris Brannon
               ` Cleverson Casarin Uliana
               ` Janina Sajka
             ` John G. Heim
               ` Janina Sajka
       ` Chris Brannon
         ` covici
         ` Gregory Nowak
           ` Chris Brannon
         ` Janina Sajka
           ` Chris Brannon
             ` John G. Heim
               ` running VMs from a live environment Chris Brannon
               ` the push to get rid of CONFIG_VT in the kernel and the future of Speakup Gregory Nowak
               ` Janina Sajka
           ` Cleverson Casarin Uliana
   ` John G. Heim
     ` Janina Sajka
       ` Kyle
         ` John G. Heim
         ` Janina Sajka
 ` Talking with the systemd-consoled people (Was: the push to get rid of CONFIG_VT in the kernel and the future of Speakup) Samuel Thibault

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