From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: by befuddled.reisers.ca (Postfix, from userid 65534) id B1BE31EF840; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 09:34:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hurricane.the-brannons.com (hurricane.the-brannons.com [IPv6:2001:470:1:41:a800:ff:fe3e:bc77]) by befuddled.reisers.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 802BB1EF83A for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 09:34:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (71-38-154-164.ptld.qwest.net [71.38.154.164]) by hurricane.the-brannons.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 728FB77CD1 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 06:34:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Deedra Waters To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Cc: Subject: Re: a little sysadmin story References: <86a956i23h.fsf@vibrator.pk5001z> <20141009125200.GI1044@opera.rednote.net> Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2014 06:34:18 -0700 In-Reply-To: <20141009125200.GI1044@opera.rednote.net> (Janina Sajka's message of "Thu, 9 Oct 2014 08:52:00 -0400") Message-ID: <86ppe1gyed.fsf@vibrator.pk5001z> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.2.4 X-BeenThere: speakup@linux-speakup.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2014 13:34:19 -0000 Janina, speakup was the cause because when bossman came down to hook up a monitor and look, the panick messages had something to do with speakup. As for backing up their work, they were trying to fix their fuck-up to begin with. The initial problem wasn't with speakup. However when i was helping them debug it, speakup made the kernel panick and crash. Debian i dont think likes people with root access on their box to begin with, but i think they kind of didn't like speakup in their kernel to begin with. I suspect on the other hand that if speakup was a user-space app, it wouldn't have mattered to them so much. If a userspace program crashes it doesn't take down the whole box. When speakup does though, it takes down the whole box. -- Website: http://deedra.the-brannons.com blog: http://deedra.the-brannons.com/blog