From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from 66-197-196-101.hostnoc.net ([66.197.196.101] helo=www5.stonewebs.com) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1Hw55p-0003rE-00 for ; Wed, 06 Jun 2007 19:39:09 -0400 Received: from 75-120-10-209.dyn.centurytel.net ([75.120.10.209] helo=[192.168.2.100]) by www5.stonewebs.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Hw55u-00047L-Qz for speakup@braille.uwo.ca; Wed, 06 Jun 2007 18:39:14 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <20070606195406.GB14562@grml> References: <20070605030234.GB32366@ourhouse.brannan.name> <001501c7a71e$1ba45340$0901a8c0@HANDS> <20070605031014.GA32497@ourhouse.brannan.name> <472CC8C1-1F61-4B21-9F9A-352C11B9E46D@softcon.com> <20070605234921.GC26352@gmx.net> <20070606195406.GB14562@grml> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <831BBFA6-9BE2-43CC-856A-D9661B2611A2@softcon.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Travis Siegel Subject: Re: Definitely unslung Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 18:39:02 -0500 To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-PopBeforeSMTPSenders: books@softcon.com, movies@softcon.com, tsiegel, tsiegel@softcon.com X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - www5.stonewebs.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - braille.uwo.ca X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - softcon.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2007 23:39:10 -0000 Doug. The osx operating system has a screen reader built-in. It's called voice over, and for the most part, it works fairly well. It has it's quirks, but what doesn't. Any OSX version 10.4 (that's tiger) or later will work with voice over, so you're able to basically sit down and use *any* mac that is running tiger. And, that's the main benefit here. You buy the computer, the os comes with it, and you need spend nothing extra to make it accessible to a blind user. That more than anything else is why I'm so drawn to the macs, though the longer I use them, the more I find to recomend them. I've had my current machine only about 6 months, but before that I had one since only a few months after osx tiger came out. It came out in April (end of april) and I bought my minimac in August. That was nearly two years ago. That mini went to my son, and I got another mini, and a macbook (the mac laptop) They're both nice machines.