From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-ia0-x235.google.com (mail-ia0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c02::235]) by befuddled.reisers.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8D24E1EF6DD for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 11:34:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-ia0-f181.google.com with SMTP id o25so488481iad.12 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 08:33:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:from:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:x-mailer :thread-index:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type :x-gm-message-state; bh=yNtyX5WcvR3tsaSFiY8EYF0N1c48H/6/FAgHRmrX8GM=; b=FdPjj/qgbTEyQgRxYwqH5r88AYYDJA7fNZTlia/B9zbfLPIeOcAxVlYXbcT9+4ADQh nvEo9z3s84W7ke8MFqg1LMOEo5vrfxERIn9psUi5hZCo4X+S179EKoyVY/GwgWabdUz9 12/PgdYceoIUbliqg9pKy2Oek8y3opekwp7dvENQtRzpMuMaMe6eVawhbJVitlJvKEXv U1quGJFm3VS0iMnSZhiZ8EzQIlF+f19jkF+Zk0CnTCPE8atX1VGn9ni+HTlYqvPeBEZu FiwGIF2QERg9qBwFi1vGVpWiHiZYFzSjicRW5Ny1yRZM8Sh8HuDfNxr4przZC6fgzYOq 7QeA== X-Received: by 10.50.140.73 with SMTP id re9mr9785434igb.59.1364571232833; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 08:33:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Amanda Rush References: <963B334B-76C6-494B-B10E-2EEC4631AE1C@gmail.com> <51556090.1040601@baechler.net> <3fb1fb569c54fd8aa7873fa5710d0851@mail.gmail.com> <5155A2D2.3050403@math.wisc.edu> <5155B449.3080600@baechler.net> <5155A99E.7070702@math.wisc.edu> In-Reply-To: <5155A99E.7070702@math.wisc.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 thread-index: AQLyjPEF9C7xBi5W5lnB1D/56PzEHgJX/u4gAVS40asBrs4MLwHGvtRXAshIdfcBrma2/pYXQ2MQ Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 11:33:53 -0400 Message-ID: <818095c6a2830490c88ab9a9b3359fca@mail.gmail.com> Subject: RE: Red Hat Enterprise 6.2 To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmVFDmLvhfGdJaWGYVq1NF4pmN+XhUD85tiwuEnRhj9WhdI26riNv4CaHXOEXux4s5bBi+p X-BeenThere: speakup@linux-speakup.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 15:34:07 -0000 I spoke to my local and state NFB representatives last year around this time, and was told that if I could find a lawyer who would take this on, and provide the money and other such, then the NFB would then maybe be willing to back this. But since I'm not rich, and don't have steady work, this is pretty much impossible. I would love to find someone possibly more in the know/higher up to talk to. People's jobs and educations are on the line because of this. -----Original Message----- From: Speakup [mailto:speakup-bounces@linux-speakup.org] On Behalf Of John G. Heim Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 10:48 AM To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Subject: Re: Red Hat Enterprise 6.2 IMO, the shocking thing isn't that REL doesn't have the speakup modules, it's that Red Hat apparently just threw up it's hands and said, "Sorry, blind people, no certs for you." Somebody should sue them. There's no substitute for certification from RH itself. They *have* to make that accessible. This is the kind of thing that steams my wheaties. It's part of the reason I help create the International Association of Visually Impaired Technologists (www.iavit.org). On 03/29/2013 10:33 AM, Tony Baechler wrote: > Yes, Speakup wasn't officially in 2.6.32 kernels, but it could still > be compiled as modules. Debian Squeeze ships it, but they don't use a > Red Hat kernel. Even now, they can still make the argument that > Speakup isn't "official" because it's in staging which is considered unofficial. > Regardless, there are other ways of accessing RHEL such as ssh and > there is still no excuse why they can't comply with the ADA and make > RHEL accessible for certification. Also, there is yasr and Gnome > Terminal with Orca, so even without Speakup, there is still no excuse. > That still doesn't address the graphical part of the requirement or > the ability or lack thereof to use the VM. > > On 3/29/2013 6:18 AM, John G. Heim wrote: >> I ttalked to someone here at the University of Wisconsin who manages >> Red Hat servers. The UW has a site license for Red Hat. I don't know >> anything about it because my department uses debian (lucky for me). >> >> Anyway, he said the reason RH still doesn't give you speakup is that >> their current release still uses a 2.6.32 kernel and speakup wsn't >> included in the official kernel source until 2.6.37 -- which is >> correct, I believe. >> >> In a way, I can understand where RH is coming from but, holy cow, >> they are making it impossible for blind people to get certification >> from them. >> That's >> outrageous! I mean, I hate to use this cliche but this is an outrage. >> Personally, I don't give a flying fig about Red Hat because my >> department uses debian. But even so, I find this unconcionable. >> Somebody ought to sue their ass. > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@linux-speakup.org > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup > _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@linux-speakup.org http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup