From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-yx0-f193.google.com (mail-yx0-f193.google.com [209.85.210.193]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB41910BE5 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 2009 14:46:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: by yxe31 with SMTP id 31so10214662yxe.21 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 2009 11:46:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=k3ON5PLwH2WDxVtzqX7VhcOhE8P4Ho/0yn+TMuggISM=; b=NcsUcq8H7PPcv1lIkm4woTdMZ7tQnYCnuVFpM4U9OIKxW5NsIoTEs+EHrypH/NJY1z dxfbk9OdpQ1Aag/Rt1cn4tmWfOcpFEOZggzoHBcSPDFAMutdo2mQf3acA1JhV+7rrZRA QlHcq4YybfW+bmXCFPY4mL2I0o2FxEqbT46OI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=KHu8+/veZPmYH1rBo1IvtfDKqelQuxDwssAOMYjrutB0p1trr2FVorhKIEgfTJUbSk y4pHrKGBmfVzTNo1Z3kEQi/czEKbhkXu0wZkwM9Vy1fUOr6MgwyAMFu8U7hAd3gwXGii ApTnxm2daVpxzXR4ZGLWbTL0LW9Xvj6XEP93E= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.44.16 with SMTP id r16mr12509327ybr.65.1256582765271; Mon, 26 Oct 2009 11:46:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1256573941.4506.4.camel@orchid.sented-plants.local> References: <1256573941.4506.4.camel@orchid.sented-plants.local> Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 14:46:05 -0400 Message-ID: <7e263f710910261146o722c87f8n257c4a255c26c98a@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Ipods and Itunes - What are they all about? From: Jason Miller To: r2gl@o2.co.uk, "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 18:46:06 -0000 Hello Here is what is with iPods and iTunes. iTunes is the music player that comes standard with the apple systems, and can be downloaded onto Windows. An iPod is like you said, the player. As far as differences with iPods and other players, there are quite a few. Some of the iPods now come accessible out of the box with Macintosh's screen reader built in (it's called Voice Over). That will read you the song files, playlists, and do a bunch more apparently. There is a solve all for older iPods too, up to generation 5.5. It's called rockbox, and although it's something like the main speakup voice, or the orca for ubuntu voice, it does the same thing, and it makes the older iPods accessible. You can go to www.rockbox.org to check out the system, it's an entire firmware replacement for the iPods, and not just a screen reader. As for other differences, you can get iPods up to like 180 GB now of storage, which you can't do with many (or most of) the other players. I don't know wat all the iPod supports, but that is where you need iTunes. You make you playlist, or sync your iPod on iTunes, and it transfers all of your music, no matter which *supported* extension, to the iPod in a certain (M4A I think) format. I hope that helps explain the differences a little. On 10/26/09, Georgina Joyce wrote: > Hi All > > > Could someone explain in simple terms what Itunes and Ipods are all > about? How different is it from using a standard mp3 player and putting > files into different directories? Yes you can buy electronic copies of > music from itunes but will they only play on an Ipod? Are there Ipods > that are accessible now? Do these linux Ipod tools make storing and > choosing music easy? I'm guessing Itunes and Ipods don't handle in any > shape or form with vorbis ogg files? > > In short, how accessible is an Ipod and Itunes from the linux platform > and what are the advantages over a standard mp3 player? > > Many thanks. > > -- > Gena > > > four kinds of freedom, for the users of the software: > > * The freedom to run the program, for any purpose (freedom 0). > * The freedom to study how the program works, and adapt it to your > needs (freedom 1). Access to the source code is a precondition for this. > * The freedom to redistribute copies so you can help your neighbor > (freedom 2). > * The freedom to improve the program, and release your improvements > to the public, so that the whole community benefits (freedom 3). Access > to the source code is a precondition for this. > > Richard Matthew Stallman > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >