From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp-relay2.uniserve.ca (smtp-relay2g.uniserve.ca [216.113.194.205]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A230109CD for ; Tue, 22 Sep 2009 11:48:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ip-26.51.99.216.dsl-cust.ca.inter.net ([216.99.51.26] helo=peter80061603b) by smtp-relay2.uniserve.ca with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Mq7bK-0003vP-IW for speakup@braille.uwo.ca; Tue, 22 Sep 2009 08:48:23 -0700 Message-ID: <787015B3DBE24C6B91F7091683D9A5F1@peter80061603b> From: "Peter Tesar" To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." References: <20090921003109.GA18755@gnuked.clearwire.net><20090921193613.GA26455@romuald.net.eu.org><20090921212439.GA28694@gnuked.clearwire.net><20090921212920.GU6140@const.famille.thibault.fr><20090922015045.GA12867@gnuked.clearwire.net><20090922083805.GB6084@const.bordeaux.inria.fr> <3835BDE60AD54D3991F211CD868918C5@math.wisc.edu> Subject: How do I get to learn Linux & SpeakUp? Re: How to use espeakup Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 11:48:05 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Sender-Info: ptesar@ca.inter.net X-Scanner: OK. Scanned. X-Uniserve-Spam-Score: 0.1 1 (/) X-Uniserve-Spam-Report: Content analysis details: (0.1 points) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.1 RDNS_DYNAMIC Delivered to trusted network by host with dynamic-looking rDNS 0.0 FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK Forged mail pretending to be from MS Outlook X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 15:48:23 -0000 Where do I get this useful information? I would like to get started using Linux. I haven't been successful with the distribution CD that I downloaded and burned. You wrote: > People are not supposed to find useful information *here*, they're > supposed to find useful information in the *Notice*, which is > spkguide.txt and the manual pages, not this list ( All I have to work with is Windows XP and JAWS. I thought that it would be easier to chat with someone on your Reflector. The information sent me through this list service didn't help. Maybe I am doing something wrong or nobody is there to chat. Your web site http://linux-speakup.org/ is not helpful. Can anyone help? ----- Original Message ----- From: "John G. Heim" To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 10:52 AM Subject: Re: How to use espeakup, revisited... > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Samuel Thibault" > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." > > People are not supposed to find useful information *here*, they're > supposed to find useful information in the *Notice*, which is > spkguide.txt and the manual pages, not this list (as that would mean > that users would have to either browse the archive (tedious), or ask > a question, wait, get an answer, ask another question, wait again, > etc.). We clearly said that we welcome contributions to these (I > personnally have absolutely no time atm to work on it, but can gladly > commit). > Obviously, no one with any sense would dispute the fact that the most > efficient way to figure out how to use speakup is to read the > documentation. But I do have a suggestion that I think would save a lot of > headaches for us users. I think that the development team should try to > use this list as a way to notify users of changes. > > For example, I don't think any notice was posted to this list about the > switch from cvs to git. I used to use the shell script that came with > speakup to download updates. All of a sudden it stopped wworking. I read > this list almost every day and I never saw that coming. > > Obviously, I don't mean this as a criticism. I think you guys do fantastic > work. I'm just saying that you could probably help a lot of people to > avoid a lot of headaches if you posted messages here when such changes > occured. And this stuff happens all the time. For example, there was the > recent discussion about creating a file for a flag to indicate whether the > synth was active or not. How are we going to know when that gets done? I > guess I can keep browsing the documentation but wouldn't it make sense > just to post a notification of that kind of thing to this list? > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >