From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: by befuddled.reisers.ca (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 1467D1EF846; Sat, 1 Nov 2014 10:38:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail-oi0-f43.google.com (mail-oi0-f43.google.com [209.85.218.43]) by befuddled.reisers.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C61C21EF842 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 2014 10:38:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-oi0-f43.google.com with SMTP id e131so6924991oig.2 for ; Sat, 01 Nov 2014 07:38:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:message-id:reply-to:to:references :in-reply-to:subject:date:organization:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=oFCxkt3cm5CO/1CJ+VJTseZKknhEclyNcUSOf3WvomE=; b=Upp2LtKwW+RjYUccXQ4k3JP+bhPcuNwwDCDZiScctm0GdamSVsL9UPwJJCI/BSMABi ZhdldbhpHzvapLqefxfkkPP7UsND9FDmy82UAgmKyfA2yb1YeWE0/OLXSmMEs1iyYKaR 3RcRou9DqrtojaR0sEk/gC/k00g5GJXruGKc0zMJ/pqjJWDxe9hLKY5eS0zbK+ijRPuv dFl6kAwCpOyrT0F+FgszWc07TI52vys2nZ7c7y891J4AT6BpfIQykeApgnhyYX6SW/+2 +n20+mBU/JMHuYG+6Qa8G4+9GbzcGrElY24wj6fQFTakKinh4Q0FsrGACBsbxpvmyfRv hg4g== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlWCwo/RqjDf7m281P9r2/TT6gBLOzGnw9IeOtFWJ8q5a5iegVSpcagkZ7dItn9hvQL+R2u X-Received: by 10.202.71.66 with SMTP id u63mr2455795oia.54.1414852704645; Sat, 01 Nov 2014 07:38:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from LennyPC (184-155-1-210.cpe.cableone.net. [184.155.1.210]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id w139sm995019oie.10.2014.11.01.07.38.23 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 01 Nov 2014 07:38:24 -0700 (PDT) From: "Glenn / Lenny" X-Google-Original-From: "Glenn / Lenny" Message-ID: <682FDD390BB249D6844C205E20A080B4@LennyPC> Reply-To: "Glenn / Lenny" To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: finished with slackware Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2014 09:38:23 -0500 Organization: Home MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18463 X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.2.4 X-BeenThere: speakup@linux-speakup.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Nov 2014 14:38:29 -0000 Jude, Why do you not burn your own disks? Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jude DaShiell" To: Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2014 4:27 AM Subject: finished with slackware 14.1 was the killer. Nothing I did documented or otherwise got any speech out of that version of slackware so the disks have been trashed. I'll not buy any future version of the distribution either since by the time the disks arrive invariably one or more of them get broken by the shipping process. Slackware is too thrifty to have bubble wrap insulating their jewel cases in those cardboard boxes they use for shipping and I have complained about this repeatedly to slackware too. So far as I'm concerned, the distribution is inaccessible for installation or use. I suspect further something happens in the boot process that makes litetalk synthesizers unable to speak even when no attempt is made to access the synthesizer on boot up. Because after doing a boot up by just hitting the enter key a couple times echo statements directed to ttyS0 and ttyS1 produced silence and the litetalk said it was ready before booting the machine. Also in sighted boot up state, modprobe speakup-synth=ltlk and modprobe speakup-synth=ltlk speakup-ser=0 and modprobe speakup-synth=ltlk speakup-ser=1 statements all failed to contact the synthesizer as did replacing the dash characters first with underscores and then replacing the underscore characters by periods in those commands. What makes this worse is that earlier I offered to donate a doubletalk litetalk synthesizer to slackware and pay for the shipping so slackware could do some real accessibility testing with at least one synthesizer. I did not mention what I paid for that synthesizer either. Slackware aggressively refused my offer. How slackware does its accessibility testing is that they put a monitor on a serial port that shows serial traffic. Then they boot up using the booting parameters for speakup they put in their documentation and watch to see if any traffic goes out that serial port. If traffic goes out, their accessibility test has passed. With the current situation, slackware is unable to prove signals adverse to accessibility do not go out over the serial ports to synthesizers since they have no synthesizer on which to actually hear what does or does not happen and are not interested in correcting that deficiency. jude Twitter: @jdashiel _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@linux-speakup.org http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup