From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from relay01.roc.ny.frontiernet.net ([66.133.182.164]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1DwRUs-0004gJ-00 for ; Sat, 23 Jul 2005 17:25:26 -0400 Received: from filter02.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (filter02.roc.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.183.69]) by relay01.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B09C136428A for ; Sat, 23 Jul 2005 21:25:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay01.roc.ny.frontiernet.net ([66.133.182.164]) by filter02.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (filter02.roc.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.183.69]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 25403-09-75 for ; Sat, 23 Jul 2005 21:25:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from Scott.citlink.net (170-215-11-11.nas1.int.mn.frontiernet.net [170.215.11.11]) by relay01.roc.ny.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19BD9364189 for ; Sat, 23 Jul 2005 21:25:15 +0000 (UTC) Message-Id: <6.2.3.4.0.20050723162357.021d07d0@pop3.citlink.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.3.4 Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 16:25:08 -0500 To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." From: Scott Berry In-Reply-To: <000a01c58faf$ba552c40$230110ac@main> References: <20050723135444.GT4693@rednote.net> <000a01c58faf$ba552c40$230110ac@main> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-33D862C7 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-2.2.1 (20041222) at filter02.roc.ny.frontiernet.net Subject: RE: Speak up installation X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 21:25:26 -0000 Actually talking about newbies what are the srpms for Fedora for. What purpose do they serve? It's been a long time since I have ran Fedora or a Red Hat derivatives. At 12:55 PM 7/23/2005, you wrote: >Hi, >If a new be has a question let him or her ask it. That is the first >step of a new be to ask a question. Being one not to long ago my self I >know the truth of that one. >Hth > >-----Original Message----- >From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca >[mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Janina Sajka >Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2005 6:55 AM >To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. >Subject: Re: Speakup installation > > >I think the archives of this list will support me when I say that I >share your (and Gregg's) concern for newbies. However, that defense in >this instance strikes me as a fig leaf. I would not have to dig back >very far at all in the archives to find posts from any number of >seasoned veterans on this list that would undoubtedly be >incomprehensible to newbies. Sorry. I don't buy it--especially when I >fail to see anything in the original question which would cause any kind >of harm to any newbie trying to do anything with Linux. For instance, if >they're installing Slack, Debian, Gentoo, or whatever, the issue would >not even come up. You know that, and I know that. > >Kenny Hitt writes: > > Hi. > > > > Gregs message says it better than I could. My problem is with making > > sure newbys have complete information. > > > > I only knew she was talking about Fedora from reading this list for > > years. Nothing in her message would have made that clear to a newby. > > > > Kenny > > > > On Fri, Jul 22, 2005 at 10:00:25PM -0400, Janina Sajka wrote: > > > Oh, dear. Where's the problem? There were several specifications > > > unreferenced in her email. But, this is the only one that bothered > > > you? And, why should it bother you? > > > > > > Kenny Hitt writes: > > > > Hi. > > > > > > > > I would like to point out this info is only true for Fedora. Other > > > > > Linux distros are different. Please don't make the mistake of > > > > deciding Fedora is the only Linux. > > > > > > > > Kenny > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 22, 2005 at 01:03:59PM -0400, Ghoston, Ameenah wrote: > > > > > Why must the user do a server install for Speakup? > > > > > And then, ask the user to do an everything install? > > > > > Please, clarify! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ameenah A. Ghoston > > > > > Access Technology Specialist > > > > > National Federation of the Blind Jernigan Institute 1800 Johnson > > > > > > St. Baltimore, Md. 21230 > > > > > Phone 410-659-9314-2414 > > > > > email: aghoston@nfb.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Speakup mailing list > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Janina Sajka Phone: +1.202.494.7040 > > > Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC >http://www.CapitalAccessibility.Com > > > Bringing the Owasys 22C screenless cell phone to the U.S. and > > > Canada. Go to http://www.ScreenlessPhone.Com to learn more. > > > > > > Chair, Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group >(FSG) > > > janina@freestandards.org http://a11y.org > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > >-- > >Janina Sajka Phone: +1.202.494.7040 >Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC >http://www.CapitalAccessibility.Com >Bringing the Owasys 22C screenless cell phone to the U.S. and Canada. Go >to http://www.ScreenlessPhone.Com to learn more. > >Chair, Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) >janina@freestandards.org http://a11y.org > >_______________________________________________ >Speakup mailing list >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > >_______________________________________________ >Speakup mailing list >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup