From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from omr-m09.mx.aol.com (omr-m09.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.82]) by befuddled.reisers.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BC7F1EF08B for ; Thu, 16 May 2013 15:06:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtaout-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.69]) by omr-m09.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 4C46270057375 for ; Thu, 16 May 2013 15:06:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from RyanTosh (host86-130-58-203.range86-130.btcentralplus.com [86.130.58.203]) by mtaout-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPA id 7DA53E00009D for ; Thu, 16 May 2013 15:06:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <5B95586E79D54D8EB60DBD02E788E850@RyanTosh> From: "Ryan Hutchings" To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." 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List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 May 2013 19:06:44 -0000 Hi John, Did your doubletalk work during wheezy installation as well? I tried using my doubletalk lt with Wheezy 64 bit to install, and got no speech. I also tried the latest grml live 64 bit cd, and got no speech after doing a modprobe speakup_ltlk. I wonder what determines when speakup will work with hardware speech? if it works on your 64bit system it can't be a 64bit thing. I tried this on a laptop if that makes any differences? Maybe a device in my laptop interferes with the speakup serial code - i.e. a device is using the i/o address that speakup normally associates with a serial port? Ryan -----Original Message----- From: John G. Heim Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 3:59 PM To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Subject: Re: Serial ports with 32-bit vs. 64-bit processors Are you saying you can't get your doubletalk to work at all or only if you load the speakup_sot module before loading the speakup_ltlk module? I don't know if I've ever tried that. But I have a 64 bit machine running squeeze and another running wheezy. Speakup works with my doubletalk on either machine if I load the speakup_ltlk module directly. On the squeeze, I'm running a kernel from squeeze-backports and on the wheezy machine, I'm running the stock kernel. Here is what uname -r says on each; squeeze: 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-amd64 wheezy: 3.2.0-4-amd64 My doubletalk also works with the 64-bit grml live CD. As I said, I'm not entirely sure I ever tried loading the speakup_ltlk module after speakup_soft. I would have to say that I have though because I put speakup_soft in /etc/modules so it loads during boot. On 05/16/13 04:07, Tony Baechler wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA256 > > Ah, that's what I've been wondering about. I've asked various people here > who claim to have working hardware speech, but never got a response. My > question is if they're running 32-bit or not. I can not only confirm that > it won't work on 64-bit systems but if I try to unload speakup_soft and > load speakup_ltlk, it completely locks up the system. Someone else said > they didn't have any problem with serial speech with new kernels and a > 32-bit processor, but I couldn't get it confirmed. Now, my question is > what difference would a 64-bit processor make? Why does it completely > lock up here but seems to work for at least three people on older 32-bit > processors? I'm tempted to install 32-bit Debian Wheezy just to see if it > makes any difference. I can say that it doesn't seem to matter on a > 32-bit live CD here. > > On 5/15/2013 3:45 PM, Adam Myrow wrote: >> Ok, I am using the kernel that ships with Debian 7.0, which is listed >> as 3.2.0-4-686-pae. My Dectalk USB works just as it always has in >> RS232 mode. In other words, serial support isn't broken for me. This >> is the 32-bit version, so maybe that's the difference. >> _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@linux-speakup.org >> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > - -- > Have a good day, > Tony Baechler > tony@baechler.net > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (MingW32) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ > > iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJRlKHnAAoJEPrAuJWnLe0yfn0P/iXnQjg7+/N8wfGHKe1+eSph > Urwuctsw+WKw8jwgFEKcHZz8HhkOggfNzttUItcPiTDJfvD/4cg/KIAJ+XKYMCc0 > LNxXIZN85uZ2iY5r7xgBgjplbHRsAeLbXrD0UazzXQVkGLfkqC+Kp58aGPGDsY0w > //vyg+xvAwggIuFHaSsO9SMBktYKCyGJ4kJn1UOfyZne4TbUQs0rbGG+T1S29p4f > /gC0D4uL04Xa374qOSkG+aFso6ET99Ax/3hkPtBZsfL9JZsju3vhhwvoDQtmMONw > OPSjNSZoSK0eov9P69HEUuK6QtZwsdE4azk6xDJp0EGftu3cpM0rXm9c0kcLa5k1 > MiZsqkM0HNgr8gF72D7f4eIdc/E9zzgK2HC9P0lKaZK5E4q7CR4ASKZKwKKlWcez > wvZsCq6MqGmQz5dUD5K2bj2QkZT8E4gzSo8PKso7ELs/fcovca5E910Kgj2B8wnb > uaCrsbjlxwFMBONxmc3M4FGXnNv2qzCl56asYOaPT+hAvMM7oOJ/XJHXYq0qm1WP > A2/FkoSwM1ks/dDjkngwPP4uF473m2xplApkoEDJA+wcPfzaCS70mDS+PMcVMsZC > SNkCPg1zl7MsUm/UED25oJ/ZJ1/HbFKFMGU/Rw5YnCZ0q0UwZtxLDfZZwWPgO1n3 > oNMRyb/34AvysFFcJ0GS > =BDqC > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@linux-speakup.org > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup > -- --- John G. Heim, 608-263-4189, jheim@math.wisc.edu _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@linux-speakup.org http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup