From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp-relay1.uniserve.ca (smtp-relay1j.uniserve.ca [216.210.109.128]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8261710A49 for ; Tue, 22 Sep 2009 21:56:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ip-67.54.99.216.dsl-cust.ca.inter.net ([216.99.54.67] helo=peter80061603b) by smtp-relay1.uniserve.ca with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MqH64-0003uv-JC for speakup@braille.uwo.ca; Tue, 22 Sep 2009 18:56:45 -0700 Message-ID: <5824BF701A254707A79A4A830014C2A9@peter80061603b> From: "Peter Tesar" To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." References: <3835BDE60AD54D3991F211CD868918C5@math.wisc.edu><787015B3DBE24C6B91F7091683D9A5F1@peter80061603b> <20090922155638.GC6084@const.bordeaux.inria.fr> Subject: Re: How do I get to learn Linux & SpeakUp? Re: How to use espeakup Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 21:56:27 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Sender-Info: ptesar@ca.inter.net X-Scanner: OK. Scanned. X-Uniserve-Spam-Score: 0.1 1 (/) X-Uniserve-Spam-Report: Content analysis details: (0.1 points) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 STOX_REPLY_TYPE STOX_REPLY_TYPE 0.1 RDNS_DYNAMIC Delivered to trusted network by host with dynamic-looking rDNS 0.0 FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK Forged mail pretending to be from MS Outlook X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 01:56:45 -0000 Here are the steps I took to try Linux (on a live CD) and then attempt to install it. I have Windows and JAWS on my first physical disk partitioned into c: and d: drives. I wanted to play it safe by putting Linux on a second physical disk. This second disk was just installed but it is not partitioned. I understood that the installing of Linux would perform the partitioning. I listened to a few MP3 podcasts explaining how to install various distributions of Linux. However, since the recordings, Linux versions have changed and I know very little about Linux ORCA and Speakup. I chose to start with Vinux. The Dr. Bongo's Vinux Development Blog site gives 30 steps. From the Vinux UK site I downloaded the ISO file and burned the live CD. This Live CD originally worked. Four minutes after booting I heard “Welcome to ORCA”. Then I could tab three times to hear the help, preferences and quit buttons. I focused on step 23 which explains How to install Vinux to a hard drive as a duel system. It states that the 'Install Vinux to Hard Drive' launcher will allow you to partition your hard drive and install Vinux to it. I thought that the five words in quotes should be typed in the console. Step 13states: you have to press ctrl+alt+F1 from the running Gnome session or the GDM login screen. You can then use Speakup to input commands from the console I pressed control+alt+f1 and then typed: Install Vinux to Hard Drive (without the quotes). This produced an error which I can’t remember exactly. I could use the ORCA say lines keys (7, 8 and 9) to review the screen. The ORCA voice is a challenge to understand. Now When I boot to the live CD I hear “welcome to ORCA” and then nothing. Now tabbing no longer results in the buttons being announced. Since ORCA started with the live CD I thought that it would guide me through the install to hard drive process. In retrospect, I think that there might be an application called a launcher. It would be helpful to have a list of command keystrokes for Linux, ORCA and Speakup. I’m even wondering if the different Linux distributions have different keystrokes. E.g. are alt+F1, alt+f2 and alt+F3 used by all the Linuxes? Where do I go from here? Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Samuel Thibault" To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 11:56 AM Subject: Re: How do I get to learn Linux & SpeakUp? Re: How to use espeakup Peter Tesar, le Tue 22 Sep 2009 11:48:05 -0400, a écrit : > All I have to work with is Windows XP and JAWS. I thought that it would be > easier to chat with someone on your Reflector. The information sent me > through this list service didn't help. Maybe I am doing something wrong or > nobody is there to chat. > > Your web site http://linux-speakup.org/ is not helpful. Then that's the place where things should be fixed. > I would like to get started using Linux. That's your question and that's what could be on the website if somebody took the time to write the text. > I haven't been successful with the distribution CD that I downloaded > and burned. Then it's probably a bug and in that case the mailing list is indeed appropriate: please precisely describe what you have done, and what result you got. Samuel _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup