From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: by befuddled.reisers.ca (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 033E01EF7BC; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 13:13:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mta1.math.wisc.edu (mta1.math.wisc.edu [144.92.166.23]) by befuddled.reisers.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 133401EF7AF for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 13:13:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mta1.math.wisc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88C9749C907 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 12:13:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mta1.math.wisc.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mta1.math.wisc.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9i9YKFfyB_7j for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 12:13:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mta1.math.wisc.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mta1.math.wisc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5448849BFE5 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 12:13:16 -0500 (CDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on mta1.math.wisc.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.0 required=6.5 tests=ALL_TRUSTED, USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from mailhost.math.wisc.edu (erdos.math.wisc.edu [144.92.166.25]) by mta1.math.wisc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 12:13:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [144.92.166.19] (vv507j.math.wisc.edu [144.92.166.19]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailhost.math.wisc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 50AB4420136 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 12:13:16 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <5436C22C.3010405@math.wisc.edu> Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2014 12:13:16 -0500 From: "John G. Heim" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/24.8.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Subject: Re: a little sysadmin story References: <86a956i23h.fsf@vibrator.pk5001z> <54368FDC.1010704@math.wisc.edu> <86lhopgpza.fsf@vibrator.pk5001z> In-Reply-To: <86lhopgpza.fsf@vibrator.pk5001z> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.2.4 X-BeenThere: speakup@linux-speakup.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2014 17:13:18 -0000 > > Because my boss who had a hell of a lot more experience then i do dug > into it and found out it was a speakup bug. > > I know you're convinced that speakup is perfect never has a bug and > crashes the kernel so i wont even try and convince you other wise but [...] No need to be insulting, Deedra. Besides, you're wrong about me being unable to see your side of the story. In fact, I am convinced you are right. I realized John C. was suggesting I try pressing speakup+r on a blank line and that sure did crash my system. And that's something you might very well have done while using the console on a development machine. On the other hand, I still say that's no reason to take speakup out of the kernel. It's a reason to fix that bug. If we need speakup in the kernel, the bugs should be fixed. But that doesn't mean we don't need speakup in the kernel.