From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: by befuddled.reisers.ca (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 931AF1EF840; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 09:38:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mta1.math.wisc.edu (mta1.math.wisc.edu [144.92.166.23]) by befuddled.reisers.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C6031EF83C for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 09:38:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mta1.math.wisc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5B3949CD6F for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 08:38:45 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mta1.math.wisc.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mta1.math.wisc.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vMJfycvIKvBX for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 08:38:45 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mta1.math.wisc.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mta1.math.wisc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A94E149C907 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 08:38:45 -0500 (CDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on mta1.math.wisc.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.0 required=6.5 tests=ALL_TRUSTED, USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from mailhost.math.wisc.edu (erdos.math.wisc.edu [144.92.166.25]) by mta1.math.wisc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 08:38:45 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [144.92.166.19] (vv507j.math.wisc.edu [144.92.166.19]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailhost.math.wisc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A63C3420CCA for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 08:38:45 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <54368FDC.1010704@math.wisc.edu> Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2014 08:38:36 -0500 From: "John G. Heim" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/24.8.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Subject: Re: a little sysadmin story References: <86a956i23h.fsf@vibrator.pk5001z> In-Reply-To: <86a956i23h.fsf@vibrator.pk5001z> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.2.4 X-BeenThere: speakup@linux-speakup.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2014 13:38:47 -0000 How do you know that the kernel panicked because of a speakup bug? I know that I've often thought that but upon closer inspection, it turned out that speakup generated error messages but they were really caused by something else. On 10/08/14 18:16, Deedra Waters wrote: > i was working at oregon state's open source lab and network admin > thing for a year and a half. Here's one situation. i came across. Not > trying to antagonize anyone at all but here's what happened and this is > one reason why i dislike speakup in the kernel even though it's got a > lot of benifits.....Anyway...... > > I was working at the lab. Debian was having a problem with one of their > my machines. The machine had crashed so i went to the dmz to kick it and > try and help them figure out their problem. We were happily working on > the box an hour or so later when i hit a speakup bug. The kernel > panicked, and the box crashed. $debiandeveloper lost their changes to > some config files. The end result was the lab lost their access to the > debian machine. I had a similar problem on another client's box. end > result, they flipped had speakup pulled from their kernels and i wasn't > allowed to work on their boxes. > > This is an extreme case, but it's also an important point in my concern. >