From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: by befuddled.reisers.ca (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 77F301EF7C6; Wed, 8 Oct 2014 17:46:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rgout04.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk (rgout04.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk [65.20.0.181]) by befuddled.reisers.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4A071EF82A for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2014 17:46:10 -0400 (EDT) X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A090204.5435B09F.00A7, ss=1, re=0.000, recu=0.000, reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 X-Junkmail-Premium-Raw: score=27/50, refid=2.7.2:2014.10.2.92119:17:27.888, ip=86.140.30.210, rules=__MOZILLA_MSGID, __HAS_MSGID, __SANE_MSGID, __HAS_FROM, __HAS_REPLYTO, __USER_AGENT, __MOZILLA_USER_AGENT, __MIME_VERSION, __TO_MALFORMED_2, __TO_NO_NAME, __BOUNCE_CHALLENGE_SUBJ, __BOUNCE_NDR_SUBJ_EXEMPT, __SUBJ_ALPHA_END, __IN_REP_TO, __CT, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN, CT_TEXT_PLAIN_UTF8_CAPS, __CTE, __REPLYTO_SAMEAS_FROM_ADDY, __REPLYTO_SAMEAS_FROM_ACC, __REPLYTO_SAMEAS_FROM_DOMAIN, __ANY_URI, __CP_URI_IN_BODY, __C230066_P2, __OEM_SOFTWARE_1, __SUBJ_ALPHA_NEGATE, __FORWARDED_MSG, BODY_SIZE_1300_1399, BODYTEXTP_SIZE_3000_LESS, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY, RDNS_GENERIC_POOLED, __URI_NS, SXL_IP_DYNAMIC[210.30.140.86.fur], HTML_00_01, HTML_00_10, BODY_SIZE_5000_LESS, RDNS_SUSP_GENERIC, RDNS_SUSP, BODY_SIZE_2000_LESS, OEM_SOFTWARE_X1, BODY_SIZE_7000_LESS X-CTCH-Spam: Unknown Received: from [192.168.0.77] (86.140.30.210) by rgout04.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk (8.6.122.06) (authenticated as mike.ray@btinternet.com) id 542C2EC8010F7B04 for speakup@linux-speakup.org; Wed, 8 Oct 2014 22:46:04 +0100 Message-ID: <5435B0A5.7060908@raspberryvi.org> Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2014 22:46:13 +0100 From: Mike Ray Reply-To: mike@raspberryvi.org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: speakup@linux-speakup.org Subject: Re: the push to get rid of CONFIG_VT in the kernel and the future of Speakup References: <87zjd64c16.fsf@mushroom.PK5001Z> <543593E4.5040400@gmail.com> <54359B9E.10203@verizon.net> <86eguii777.fsf@vibrator.pk5001z> <5435AFEB.3010401@math.wisc.edu> In-Reply-To: <5435AFEB.3010401@math.wisc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.2.4 X-BeenThere: speakup@linux-speakup.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2014 21:46:43 -0000 Personally I would hate to see Speakup disappear. IMHO a Linux PC is not truly accessible if the console is not accessible. On 08/10/2014 22:43, John G. Heim wrote: > Huh? Not having a choice doesn't mean it's not a reduction in access. > That logic makes no sense what so ever. I mean, you could argue that we > are stuck with it but that doesn't mean it won't hurt. > > > > On 10/08/14 16:26, Deedra Waters wrote: >> I dont see it as a reduction in access in all i mean i guess there is to >> some degree but the reality is that this change in the end reguardless >> of wether it comes in systemd or some other form is they're going to end >> up moving the console out of the kernel if they do this, well, you wont >> have working speech to begin with so how is it a reduction in access if >> we have no choice in the matter? >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@linux-speakup.org > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Michael A. Ray Analyst/Programmer Witley, Surrey, South-east UK The box said: 'install Windows XP, 7 or better'. So I installed Linux Interested in accessibility on the Raspberry Pi? Visit: http://www.raspberryvi.org/ >>From where you can join our mailing list for visually-impaired Pi hackers