From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: by befuddled.reisers.ca (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 7F9A01EF7BC; Wed, 8 Oct 2014 17:45:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mta1.math.wisc.edu (mta1.math.wisc.edu [144.92.166.23]) by befuddled.reisers.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92FF81EF7AF for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2014 17:45:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mta1.math.wisc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73C4249CE97 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2014 16:45:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mta1.math.wisc.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mta1.math.wisc.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rKV3rIfyOmWz for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2014 16:45:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mta1.math.wisc.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mta1.math.wisc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33A5049CE96 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2014 16:45:01 -0500 (CDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on mta1.math.wisc.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.0 required=6.5 tests=ALL_TRUSTED, USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from mailhost.math.wisc.edu (erdos.math.wisc.edu [144.92.166.25]) by mta1.math.wisc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2014 16:45:01 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [144.92.166.19] (vv507j.math.wisc.edu [144.92.166.19]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailhost.math.wisc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 30B6142001B for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2014 16:45:01 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <5435B055.1080804@math.wisc.edu> Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2014 16:44:53 -0500 From: "John G. Heim" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/24.8.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Subject: Re: the push to get rid of CONFIG_VT in the kernel and the future of Speakup References: <87zjd64c16.fsf@mushroom.PK5001Z> <543593E4.5040400@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <543593E4.5040400@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.2.4 X-BeenThere: speakup@linux-speakup.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2014 21:45:02 -0000 I've never seen a server without a serial port. On 10/08/14 14:43, Kyle wrote: > It does appear to me that something like this will force more of Speakup > into userspace. However, unlike others, I'm not entirely opposed to the > idea of Speakup leaving the kernel, and I think it can only be a good > thing, especially on newer machines, where dedicated serial ports are > all but obsolete, and software in userspace can take better advantage of > things like Pulseaudio and libusb, meaning more extensive software and > hardware speech support. For example, there would no longer be a need > for kernel modules to control speech synthesizers, and there would no > longer be a need to have external userspace connectors such as Espeakup, > as the entire Speakup screen reader could be moved into userspace, and > anything that interfaces with a speech synthesizer could be either > internal or could be a library that interfaces with a speech API like > speech-dispatcher or others. Even better, if Speakup is moved entirely > into userspace, it could give rise to far better access to consoles on > *BSD and other Unix operating systems, as the code could be far more > portable between operating systems when it doesn't have to be tied into > a specific kernel. Just my $0.02 BSD. That's Bahamian dollars lol. > ~Kyle > http://kyle.tk/ >