From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: by befuddled.reisers.ca (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 52D5B1EF7BC; Wed, 8 Oct 2014 17:43:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mta1.math.wisc.edu (mta1.math.wisc.edu [144.92.166.23]) by befuddled.reisers.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AFA41EF7AF for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2014 17:43:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mta1.math.wisc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 355C649CE97 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2014 16:43:15 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mta1.math.wisc.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mta1.math.wisc.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GB3f7yocHD0Z for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2014 16:43:15 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mta1.math.wisc.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mta1.math.wisc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0427B49CE96 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2014 16:43:15 -0500 (CDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on mta1.math.wisc.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.0 required=6.5 tests=ALL_TRUSTED, USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from mailhost.math.wisc.edu (erdos.math.wisc.edu [144.92.166.25]) by mta1.math.wisc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2014 16:43:15 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [144.92.166.19] (vv507j.math.wisc.edu [144.92.166.19]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailhost.math.wisc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EC9FF42001B for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2014 16:43:14 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <5435AFEB.3010401@math.wisc.edu> Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2014 16:43:07 -0500 From: "John G. Heim" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/24.8.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Subject: Re: the push to get rid of CONFIG_VT in the kernel and the future of Speakup References: <87zjd64c16.fsf@mushroom.PK5001Z> <543593E4.5040400@gmail.com> <54359B9E.10203@verizon.net> <86eguii777.fsf@vibrator.pk5001z> In-Reply-To: <86eguii777.fsf@vibrator.pk5001z> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.2.4 X-BeenThere: speakup@linux-speakup.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2014 21:43:16 -0000 Huh? Not having a choice doesn't mean it's not a reduction in access. That logic makes no sense what so ever. I mean, you could argue that we are stuck with it but that doesn't mean it won't hurt. On 10/08/14 16:26, Deedra Waters wrote: > I dont see it as a reduction in access in all i mean i guess there is to > some degree but the reality is that this change in the end reguardless > of wether it comes in systemd or some other form is they're going to end > up moving the console out of the kernel if they do this, well, you wont > have working speech to begin with so how is it a reduction in access if > we have no choice in the matter? > >