From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: by befuddled.reisers.ca (Postfix, from userid 65534) id B7BCE1EF7B8; Sun, 1 Dec 2013 15:12:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail-ie0-x230.google.com (mail-ie0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c03::230]) by befuddled.reisers.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6D6F31EF7B3 for ; Sun, 1 Dec 2013 15:12:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-ie0-f176.google.com with SMTP id at1so18886079iec.21 for ; Sun, 01 Dec 2013 12:11:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=eJ9G4CJRKfUdIU6XG8jRCNrHNOdBXQ/BLpcPLrBuNPo=; b=lZjit4/grOMHI22s78q8T91iMi/EA/voI9a53APkitJXwpAO5/ci8B+FB9RQ9zUP9z vTVJLvsWdlxB7iAOlg6vglFhGU/FqmzPwy1LF3Lm/rAp0gTohKENGe82wgCzpZxTfoYu KY3gUk0KQEfMJJrX6Q5uWySLkrcQLxBUdCP3yLOZPV6V/Jy+kPtuyleM6E3SMX1SdN1q BgvGEx/7Gbl8L1GcGBbZvadulVM8G/QEfB+CmMcXH1jxbQ1CY/lQVg2iHTLkDrIbdGQW /zdQ3KF5B8IBiUkgaviaIAMSsWu80b6QM9MJggrv4WoEZbM7A1l+2uO3w2RImEQcYNzV liUQ== X-Received: by 10.50.124.133 with SMTP id mi5mr14489280igb.57.1385928718853; Sun, 01 Dec 2013 12:11:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from pc.kyle.tk (kyle.tk. [192.241.168.88]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ri5sm62198580igc.1.2013.12.01.12.11.57 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 01 Dec 2013 12:11:58 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <529B980C.1020009@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2013 15:11:56 -0500 From: Kyle User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: speakup@linux-speakup.org Subject: Re: speakup, audio solutions References: <20131127180838.GA17359@redstar> <20131201005215.GD7707@concerto.rednote.net> <20131201120036.GA9288@redstar> In-Reply-To: <20131201120036.GA9288@redstar> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.2.4 X-BeenThere: speakup@linux-speakup.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.16 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2013 20:12:33 -0000 One major problem I've had with disabling Pulseaudio on any system whose sound card only handles a single audio stream is latency with regard to the ALSA Dmix plugin. I do now have a system that probably runs best with such a setup, but I have found the latency associated with Dmix to be quite problematic, and haven't yet found a way to adjust it so that I can mix multiple audio streams without causing delays when interrupting speech or enduring a seemingly unresponsive system overall. ALso, I generally run GNOME with a fallback to the command line, usually in cases where I intentionally break something in the graphical environment and need to fix it, which is quite a bit more likely on the old laptop I would be using to test a setup without Pulseaudio than on my desktop, which I use for everyday tasks that require a working system, and does not give me the freedom to break things. I do, however, need access to both Orca/speech-dispatcher and Speakup/Espeakup on this system, so it would certainly help to be able to use Dmix or another method of handling multiple streams at once using Alsa witout Pulseaudio, if it wasn't for the latency issues I have. If anyone has multiple streams playing through a sound card that normally only plays a single stream and at the same time has figured out how to solve the latency problems with ALSA/Dmix, and if anyone has figured out how to keep Espeak from chopping words/letters in speech-dispatcher using ALSA directly, please let me know how to make this setup work correctly. You may certainly contact me off-list to help me personally with such a setup, but I'm thinking that many on this list may also be able to benefit as well. Thanks for any help. ~Kyle http://kyle.tk/ -- "Kyle? ... She calls her cake, Kyle?" Out of This World, season 2 episode 21 - "The Amazing Evie"