From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from befuddled.reisers.ca (befuddled.reisers.ca [206.248.184.127]) by hurricane.the-brannons.com (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id fa52b3b5 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2025 19:35:24 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: befuddled.reisers.ca; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=hubert-humphrey.com header.i=@hubert-humphrey.com header.a=rsa-sha256 header.s=fm3 header.b=ceKg4J8s; dkim=pass (2048-bit key; unprotected) header.d=messagingengine.com header.i=@messagingengine.com header.a=rsa-sha256 header.s=fm2 header.b=mLlXUR8o; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by befuddled.reisers.ca (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 92EEB3824B4; Mon, 07 Jul 2025 15:35:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from befuddled.reisers.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by befuddled.reisers.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 730163822E1 for ; Mon, 07 Jul 2025 15:35:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by befuddled.reisers.ca (Postfix, from userid 65534) id E51C73822E6; Mon, 07 Jul 2025 15:35:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from fout-b2-smtp.messagingengine.com (fout-b2-smtp.messagingengine.com [202.12.124.145]) by befuddled.reisers.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 981F83822DD for ; Mon, 07 Jul 2025 15:35:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phl-compute-12.internal (phl-compute-12.phl.internal [10.202.2.52]) by mailfout.stl.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8A001D00256; Mon, 7 Jul 2025 15:35:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from phl-mailfrontend-02 ([10.202.2.163]) by phl-compute-12.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 07 Jul 2025 15:35:16 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= hubert-humphrey.com; h=cc:cc:content-type:content-type:date:date :from:from:in-reply-to:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :references:reply-to:subject:subject:to:to; s=fm3; t=1751916916; x=1752003316; bh=QSuJ50yuv7QK4U0lAXM9eKf74yIHsoT3KmD6eLUiWz0=; b= ceKg4J8sRoDxC54N1no7Iw+YlawrGt9n3ClsB4y4QXAK+AAD/iIwJCEWEu8ToG4K UTUW2eUOYu7depZooqnz1JtuBeLnlz7MP6qcGcWWXy9bp0q4PMwm2vX1b+RsSosV jRZ4aYMiktbDU0/sygHpDfoqY07VREWJKd1q31qew8t1wGdFO9C7W0l/0sXYx3B8 W/ulmCBfWXqk9wDkH/5hRtvPWbPlj2W+EKUyzulqKycUpMNjPkuXm8gQFyZ7854H AH8rQPhUe2tVatnbpYFF9QW83cnxw3VgklRTlcceZW04MgeZ8LV7nGvW64YhRrNZ KrwysvyjUUtfYw3b7jPxXw== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:cc:content-type:content-type:date:date :feedback-id:feedback-id:from:from:in-reply-to:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:reply-to:subject:subject:to :to:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm2; t= 1751916916; x=1752003316; bh=QSuJ50yuv7QK4U0lAXM9eKf74yIHsoT3KmD 6eLUiWz0=; b=mLlXUR8opGDCtESycD1YMq3V5GHbbcZNJkLxSv9dhUmIVdBpSd+ OVnSQiUUc5L9RhPUEtMVfaViMZJlcZECVy3kUzCxiMsJSmySjj2+T2mZKMGVBdxN dcADcOVFh26vftuHYACDhbxMJNcDcLpTMVvrO3SWq421pE5oRKQ3AstWYKcuH5By Td4Jm06/y8O9iKD8Hnlu3CYnNtZ2hB/bs35HnZygO8Ji9BorAe2EojLjmlGGajE7 mn2knodpViRLR8ue8SQCKXU8yrdBMJaImP3dpi68v9LmKHeHCgT9dSiNdYHlkR3E gkVK8Xi2had4QZ7saoU/miR3gQS8VLhFDcg== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Received: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeeffedrtdefgdefvdeiiecutefuodetggdotefrod ftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucfhrghsthforghilhdpuffrtefokffrpgfnqfghnecuuegr ihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmdenucfjug hrpeffhffvvefujgfkfhggtgesthdtredttddtvdenucfhrhhomhepvehhihhmvgcujfgr rhhtuceotghhihhmvgeshhhusggvrhhtqdhhuhhmphhhrhgvhidrtghomheqnecuggftrf grthhtvghrnhepvdehgeeljeekgeeugfefleekjeeivdekkedvteeuveeufeeffffffeff ledufedtnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehmrghilhhfrhhomh eptghhihhmvgeshhhusggvrhhtqdhhuhhmphhhrhgvhidrtghomhdpnhgspghrtghpthht ohepvddpmhhouggvpehsmhhtphhouhhtpdhrtghpthhtohepghgvnhgrsehmtdgvsghprd hukhdprhgtphhtthhopehsphgvrghkuhhpsehlihhnuhigqdhsphgvrghkuhhprdhorhhg X-ME-Proxy: Feedback-ID: ia9b947fb:Fastmail Received: by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Mon, 7 Jul 2025 15:35:15 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2025 12:35:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Chime Hart X-X-Sender: chime@chime.lan To: Georgina Joyce cc: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Subject: Re: debian update killed speakup In-Reply-To: <8BEF2F60-C508-44B0-B8B5-68268D196FCB@m0ebp.uk> Message-ID: <5203cf08-b4f7-0f45-8944-0e56b2c7eb83@hubert-humphrey.com> References: <8BEF2F60-C508-44B0-B8B5-68268D196FCB@m0ebp.uk> X-BeenThere: speakup@linux-speakup.org Precedence: list List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.2.5 Well Georgina, while I cannot comment about simlinks, here's what I would try. Run a "ps -A" look through all those processes, kill any which have to do with speech. Then type "sudo speechd-up" That has worked for me in the past. Chime