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[98.26.14.50]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id i5sm439587qaf.0.2013.05.09.17.15.48 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 09 May 2013 17:15:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <518C3C33.9020400@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 09 May 2013 20:15:47 -0400 From: Kyle User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130428 Thunderbird/17.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: speakup@linux-speakup.org Subject: Re: Voxin was: Re: Switching to Linux References: <8021.1367479350@ccs.covici.com> <518A5508.8020502@gmail.com> <518A6931.6070806@math.wisc.edu> <25752.1368029641@ccs.covici.com> <518A9206.8090008@math.wisc.edu> <518B4FCB.6090003@baechler.net> <518BAC38.8060708@math.wisc.edu> <20130509193744.GJ2324@bmcginty.hopto.org> <518C29C9.90704@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: speakup@linux-speakup.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 00:15:51 -0000 According to Hart Larry: # Actually I thought Voxen was just a re-packaging of IBM TTS, but not a # screen-reader. This is correct, which is what makes it so bad. Any way you look at it, there is no usable source code for this synthesizer, which means that it gets progressively harder and harder to keep the ancient binary code working on modern hardware and software. It's like the whole car gets newer, but you're trying to keep one old engine part going, even though the engine itself keeps getting replaced and updated around it. Eventually, even if the part lasts forever, it just won't fit anymore. # And have only heard of Pico as an editor. Pico is an editor, but there is also a speech synthesizer called Pico, made by SVox, which is the speech data that can be downloaded on Android 2.2 and 2.3, and I think it runs on 2.1 as well. It has been built for Linux, although I can't yet make it work on Arch now, because something has gone wrong in the build system. It actually sounds rather good. Debian derivatives have a package called libttspico0 and another called libttspico-utils I believe, which provide this speech synthesizer. # I rather like the sound of an Eliquence style voice, I understand that some people prefer the way this voice sounds, although it does hurt my head. To each their own, I guess. The main problem with it is not the sound, or the fact that some people like the way it sounds. The problem is that no voice that sounds like it can be made more stable and less crash prone, and no voice like it can be updated to support the latest libraries and sound API's, because the source code has either been misplaced or has been locked away, and whoever owns the rights to the actual code refuses to either release the code to those who could clean it up and fix it or to clean it up and fix it themselves, so it will eventually die a painful, albeit slow, death, becoming more and more unstable and requiring more and more coaxing just to get it installed and running until the final death occurs. # also, wouldn't mind if we could run SAPI5 style voices. Apparently this is being worked on, although I believe it needs a full installation of Wine to make it usable. If you already have Wine for something else, this isn't a real problem. I'm not absolutely sure of the details, but there are a couple of projects to address SAPI, and I believe they are trying to take advantage of speech-dispatcher in some way to make your favorite voice speak. I'm not a huge fan of Wine, but some of this stuff looks like it could work. I'll have to give it a shot, although my Wine installation currently only has the old Microsoft voices from XP and eSpeak. ~Kyle http://kyle.tk/ -- "Kyle? ... She calls her cake, Kyle?" Out of This World, season 2 episode 21 - "The Amazing Evie"