From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from dukecmmtar04.coxmail.com (dukecmmtar04.coxmail.com [68.99.120.47]) by befuddled.reisers.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 959BB1EF6FC for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 04:17:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dukecmimpo03.coxmail.com ([68.99.120.137]) by dukecmmtar04.coxmail.com (InterMail vM.8.01.05.06 201-2260-151-112-20120208) with ESMTP id <20130330081744.YPKW932.dukecmmtar04.coxmail.com@dukecmimpo03.coxmail.com> for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 04:17:44 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.101] ([70.166.17.50]) by dukecmimpo03.coxmail.com with bizsmtp id HkHj1l00K14oyBJ01kHjfk; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 04:17:44 -0400 Message-ID: <5156ADB1.8070103@baechler.net> Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2013 01:17:37 -0800 From: Tony Baechler User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.28) Gecko/20120306 Thunderbird/3.1.20 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Subject: Re: Red Hat Enterprise 6.2 References: <963B334B-76C6-494B-B10E-2EEC4631AE1C@gmail.com> <51556090.1040601@baechler.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: speakup@linux-speakup.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2013 08:17:47 -0000 Yes, but that argument doesn't hold water. FreeBSD ships Gnome as well, also with Orca. They have made no attempt to even try to implement something similar to Speakup. It's what I would call token accessibility. They can say that yes, they support accessibility because they ship accessibility packages, but you and I know perfectly well that Orca doesn't do any good at the console when the machine won't boot. Just for your information, you can probably run Orca in Windows as well since it's written in Python and all of the Gnome packages are compiled for Windows and probably Cygwin, but again, that doesn't make Windows or Cygwin accessible. I've seen the Windows installers for all of the major Gnome packages and Python. On 3/29/2013 3:25 PM, Jason White wrote: > Tony Baechler wrote: >> Jason, Red Hat has made it very clear that they have no interest in >> accessibility, so I highly doubt that just contacting them would do any >> good. I say this from looking at their sites and finding nothing at all >> about accessibility. They don't even ship Speakup with RHEL as far as I'm >> aware, but since it's in staging, maybe they do now. > > Actually, Red Hat do maintain accessibility-related packages for their > distribution (such as Gnome/Orca) and they've contributed in the past to Gnome > accessibility, so I think it's wrong to claim that they have no interest in > the issue. > > If they don't hear about it from customers or potential customers, or from > people who seek certification, it won't register strongly among their > priorities. This is why I would encourage anyone interested in certification > to contact Red Hat about their accessibility needs. > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@linux-speakup.org > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Have a good day, Tony Baechler tony@baechler.net