From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mta2.math.wisc.edu (mta2.math.wisc.edu [144.92.166.24]) by befuddled.reisers.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 455AA1EF6E0 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 12:48:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mta2.math.wisc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB2EF126002 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 11:48:27 -0500 (CDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mta2.math.wisc.edu Received: from mta2.math.wisc.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mta2.math.wisc.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mDjx4vIQ0H+i for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 11:48:27 -0500 (CDT) Received: from mta2.math.wisc.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mta2.math.wisc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26757126004 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 11:48:27 -0500 (CDT) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on delta.math.wisc.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=6.5 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.1 Received: from mailhost.math.wisc.edu (erdos.math.wisc.edu [144.92.166.25]) by mta2.math.wisc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 11:48:27 -0500 (CDT) Received: from [144.92.166.19] (vv507j.math.wisc.edu [144.92.166.19]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailhost.math.wisc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 23FB1540075 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 11:48:27 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <5155C5DB.9090101@math.wisc.edu> Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 11:48:27 -0500 From: "John G. Heim" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130307 Thunderbird/17.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Subject: Re: Red Hat Enterprise 6.2 References: <963B334B-76C6-494B-B10E-2EEC4631AE1C@gmail.com> <51556090.1040601@baechler.net> <3fb1fb569c54fd8aa7873fa5710d0851@mail.gmail.com> <9E19FD20D2924B07AADB5041AC590F2B@your2c061f0461> <5155AEB1.1060908@baechler.net> <5155AC98.80000@verizon.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: speakup@linux-speakup.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 16:48:30 -0000 I've been on the linux kernel list and there is no way that speakup is going to get out of staging without a rewrite. The people on the list kept asking me why speakup can't run in user space and stuff like that. The idea that speakup is for blind people like video output is for sighted people was completely foreign. How would you like it if your monitor was blank until the system finished booting? Would you consider that adequate? They didn't have an answer for that. But I'll admit that I don't understand exactly what their problems are with the speakup code. It doesn't matter though because Red Hat's solution doesn't have to involve speakup. It would be nice if it did though. On 03/29/2013 11:15 AM, William F. Acker WB2FLW +1 303 722 7209 wrote: > What they said, in essence, was that they weren't interested in turning > on Speakup until it was out of staging . I was rather rudely encouraged > to get with upstream and make it happen. > >