From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Greylist: delayed 3602 seconds by postgrey-1.34 at befuddled; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 12:04:24 EDT Received: from vms173013pub.verizon.net (vms173013pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.13]) by befuddled.reisers.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FD1B1EF6F0 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 12:04:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.5.102] ([unknown] [96.233.16.186]) by vms173013.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MKF00L0DGIQJU30@vms173013.mailsrvcs.net> for speakup@linux-speakup.org; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 10:04:03 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <5155AD62.5090608@verizon.net> Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 11:04:02 -0400 From: Al Sten-Clanton User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130311 Thunderbird/17.0.4 MIME-version: 1.0 To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Subject: Re: Red Hat Enterprise 6.2 References: <963B334B-76C6-494B-B10E-2EEC4631AE1C@gmail.com> <51556090.1040601@baechler.net> <3fb1fb569c54fd8aa7873fa5710d0851@mail.gmail.com> <5155A2D2.3050403@math.wisc.edu> <5155B449.3080600@baechler.net> In-reply-to: <5155B449.3080600@baechler.net> Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: speakup@linux-speakup.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 16:04:24 -0000 I'd think they also could adapt their views on how "official" something must be for inclusion. These are human choices, not things decreed by nature or some divinity. Al On 03/29/2013 11:33 AM, Tony Baechler wrote: > Yes, Speakup wasn't officially in 2.6.32 kernels, but it could still be > compiled as modules. Debian Squeeze ships it, but they don't use a Red > Hat kernel. Even now, they can still make the argument that Speakup > isn't "official" because it's in staging which is considered unofficial. > Regardless, there are other ways of accessing RHEL such as ssh and there > is still no excuse why they can't comply with the ADA and make RHEL > accessible for certification. Also, there is yasr and Gnome Terminal > with Orca, so even without Speakup, there is still no excuse. That > still doesn't address the graphical part of the requirement or the > ability or lack thereof to use the VM. > > On 3/29/2013 6:18 AM, John G. Heim wrote: >> I ttalked to someone here at the University of Wisconsin who manages >> Red Hat >> servers. The UW has a site license for Red Hat. I don't know anything >> about >> it because my department uses debian (lucky for me). >> >> Anyway, he said the reason RH still doesn't give you speakup is that >> their >> current release still uses a 2.6.32 kernel and speakup wsn't included >> in the >> official kernel source until 2.6.37 -- which is correct, I believe. >> >> In a way, I can understand where RH is coming from but, holy cow, they >> are >> making it impossible for blind people to get certification from them. >> That's >> outrageous! I mean, I hate to use this cliche but this is an outrage. >> Personally, I don't give a flying fig about Red Hat because my department >> uses debian. But even so, I find this unconcionable. Somebody ought to >> sue >> their ass. > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@linux-speakup.org > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup >