From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from dukecmmtar03.coxmail.com (dukecmmtar03.coxmail.com [68.99.120.44]) by befuddled.reisers.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34EBE1EF4D3 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2013 06:54:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from dukecmimpo02.coxmail.com ([68.99.120.135]) by dukecmmtar03.coxmail.com (InterMail vM.8.01.05.06 201-2260-151-112-20120208) with ESMTP id <20130102115430.WGFZ1249.dukecmmtar03.coxmail.com@dukecmimpo02.coxmail.com> for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2013 06:54:30 -0500 Received: from [192.168.0.102] ([70.166.17.50]) by dukecmimpo02.coxmail.com with bizsmtp id izuW1k00514oyBJ01zuW8k; Wed, 02 Jan 2013 06:54:30 -0500 Message-ID: <50E41FEF.7020008@baechler.net> Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2013 03:54:23 -0800 From: Tony Baechler User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.28) Gecko/20120306 Thunderbird/3.1.20 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Subject: 1 of 2 - Re: Hardware for new Linux installs? References: <65B886F7A79248CEB042AE9E9194AB5F@Boe> In-Reply-To: <65B886F7A79248CEB042AE9E9194AB5F@Boe> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: speakup@linux-speakup.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2013 11:54:33 -0000 I'm sending this again since apparently you didn't see my original reply. Also, I don't know of any easy way to use hardware speech with a GUI. Yes, there are versions of synthesizers which sound like Eloquence, but I really wouldn't recommend them. First, they are not free software, so don't expect any community support. Second, they don't work well on 64-bit systems from my understanding. You really don't want to run a 32-bit Linux box with lots of memory due to hardware and BIOS limitations. I can definitely notice a speed improvement with 64-bit Linux. Almost any modern AMD and Intel CPU will work. If you really want to play with the GUI, Ubuntu might be a better choice, but it seems to have more accessibility issues. I personally like Debian a lot after trying Gentoo, Slackware and RHEL. I've not used Fedora or Arch. My original text is below. I just had a brand new server built, so I feel qualified to answer your questions. Write me privately if you want the exact hardware details. Yes, it has an onboard serial port. No, new kernels still have broken serial support, so that means that you'll be installing with software speech. I can't comment on anything other than Debian and Ubuntu, but they both use ESpeak, so learn to live with it. The US English voice isn't too terrible once you get used to it. I also have little interest in the GUI, but I think Debian and Ubuntu are your best bets. I'll leave it to others to comment on Gnome 3 accessibility and Orca. In short, what I would recommend is a new machine with Debian Squeeze. Squeeze still supports hardware speech. You can then upgrade it to Wheezy which uses kernel 3.2 and doesn't support hardware speech. That way at least you have the old kernel to fall back on and you won't have to do the install with ESpeak. Another option might be to move everything to a VPS or dedicated server and just set up a dual boot Windows and Linux system or run Linux in a virtual machine. I must say that I'm very happy with my Debian server which routinely handles hundreds of email messages and a few regular ftp connections. I'm glad I left Gentoo behind, but I read that Arch is supposed to be good. On 12/5/2012 5:20 PM, Jayson Smith wrote: > What I need to know is, what kinds of systems are people using these days > for new Linux installs? I don't want to try to migrate my old system over to > new hardware, since it was a hopelessly outdated Gentoo install. I probably > wouldn't go with Gentoo again anyway. So what minimum hardware requirements, > what distro? I'd love to play around with a GUI, but I absolutely can't > stand Espeak! The GUY doesn't work with hardware synths, right? What about > newer kernels and serial ports? If I do go with a GUI, is there any way to > get Eloquence for it? Is anyone selling pre-built Linux systems for blind > folks?