From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-da0-f45.google.com (mail-da0-f45.google.com [209.85.210.45]) by befuddled.reisers.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 524D3CC3EA for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 16:43:44 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-da0-f45.google.com with SMTP id w4so1854615dam.32 for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 13:43:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=geILsNYIiVHmH5bV5m70jSQuvfSZcQYHzOBgHia0X2o=; b=EgLc1LvhvkUlr28hkbLj182f0V4Ayf1Jkj7hkrGVnLZyG5WWHZSlCdRK92tjd8SpQj CCsq0wj/Uwo+CloZCJu3yLROSRunyOLuB3j15aVWb9lZpIqDCON4VG6e73fE698k548w dHgXYCAS4Zm1Xv6WwSeOB26qcsKzChJXe6/OIwt7Mcg6StLNkVGXgFuGTeO5++J3kgI7 8fr3wNf2V18s0uVqFzdLLh4aeJ88yGv35G14wrHNLb9rYqPwjB4gLqP2exF8gh5qROGc 40vVHEA2r4Tu207d8f+jyvWm1LltvAj4Ru3bTVDUtUgDAXdLrwGNuviimZI2JKjD4CtZ wUwQ== Received: by 10.68.240.233 with SMTP id wd9mr52528590pbc.127.1355262222501; Tue, 11 Dec 2012 13:43:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.4] (CPE-58-174-32-82.mjcz1.woo.bigpond.net.au. [58.174.32.82]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d8sm14492937pax.23.2012.12.11.13.43.39 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 11 Dec 2012 13:43:41 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <50C7A8D2.6060506@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 07:42:42 +1000 From: Arthur Pirika User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Subject: Re: Are the days of hardware synths and speaking from boot numbered? References: <50C79DA4.8010605@gmail.com> <20121211212324.GA31490@gregn.net> In-Reply-To: <20121211212324.GA31490@gregn.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: speakup@linux-speakup.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 21:43:45 -0000 On 12/12/2012 07:23, Gregory Nowak wrote: > On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 06:55:00AM +1000, Arthur Pirika wrote: >> I think the subject pretty much speaks for itself. With >> serial synths, and especially serial ports getting harder to find, >> with the only serials synths still being made new are the venerable >> doubletalks, should work be ramped up on getting software speech, >> somehow at kernel level? I know there was a project working on this, >> but not much has been done on it for a while. > This seems to come up once a while, and usually ends up in a > unresolved tug of war between those who say desktops with serial ports > are still cheap and plentiful, and those like yourself who say the > days of serial ports are numbered. I personally am not in the market > for a new desktop, so haven't bothered investigating either claim. > >> I honestly don't care for a desktop too much either, but good to know that serial ports haven't died out on desktops yet. I'm quite happy with my toshiba core-i5. Related to this, I assume it's still possible to build speakup into the kernel, although most distributions package speakup as modules, thereby allowing messages from the moment of powerup? > Yes, you can still build speakup into the kernel, and yes, as far as I > know, most if not all distros which include speakup package it as > modules. You can still get speech essentially from power up if you > have speakup compiled as modules, which load from your initrd > image. So, I don't see a good reason for building speakup into the > kernel, unless you don't want to/can't use an initrd for some reason. > > Greg > > I keep forgetting about the initrd option, even though i keep seeing it in installation guides. I'll keep it in mind. >> thanks, >> Arthur >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@linux-speakup.org >> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>