From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from shawmail.shawcable.com ([64.59.128.220] helo=bpd2mo2no.prod.shawcable.com) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19JNTn-0008LU-00 for ; Fri, 23 May 2003 21:05:47 -0400 Received: from bpd2mi2no.prod.shawcable.com (bpd2mi2no-qfe3.prod.shawcable.com [10.0.184.121]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.14 (built Mar 18 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HFD00HIU9OQT0@l-daemon> for speakup@braille.uwo.ca; Fri, 23 May 2003 19:05:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from nomad.shawcable.com ([24.70.172.254]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 (built Feb 21 2002)) with ESMTP id <0HFD00D6D9OQO6@l-daemon> for speakup@braille.uwo.ca; Fri, 23 May 2003 19:05:14 -0600 (MDT) Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 20:04:43 +0200 From: Doug Subject: Re: suggestion? In-reply-to: X-Sender: wearable@mail.shawcable.com To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca Message-id: <5.1.0.14.2.20030523195829.02892a30@mail.shawcable.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed References: <5.1.0.14.2.20030523194318.02885df0@mail.shawcable.com> Sender: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca Errors-To: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: The JDK (java Developer's Kit) which now is called J2SDK, and the runtime (JRE) is all free. There is also a linux x86 version both at Sun and blackdown. http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.1/download.html ftp://ftp.tux.org/pub/java/JDK-1.4.1/i386/01/ There are tools that cost money (integrated development environments) but you don't need them. You can do everything in emacs. I actually use VI and the linux console (that's it!). Also, the NetBeans IDE from Sun was free last time I checked. http://www.netbeans.org/ I haven't spent a dime on java development tools in many years of using it ... -- Doug