From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from tds-solutions.net (tds-solutions.net [69.164.206.65]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F594C1A259 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 13:44:15 -0500 (EST) Received: from [65.126.166.71] (unknown [65.126.166.71]) (Authenticated sender: tyler@tds-solutions.net) by tds-solutions.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F0BCCA47D for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 11:40:37 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <4D54310F.8070605@tysdomain.com> Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 11:40:15 -0700 From: "Littlefield, Tyler" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Subject: Re: please help with legacy grub References: <20110210033107.GA7287@romuald.net.eu.org> <20110210183900.GA10876@romuald.net.eu.org> In-Reply-To: <20110210183900.GA10876@romuald.net.eu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: tyler@tysdomain.com, "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 18:44:15 -0000 I do not think grml small or anything but the 700 mb grml disk has speakup in it from all I've read. Here's a thought though: why not grab Chris Brannon's talking arch, load it up and chroot from there? If all you need is a chroot, that would do perfectly. On 2/10/2011 11:39 AM, Gregory Nowak wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Thanks for your reply. > > As far as I know, only grml big has speakup included, and I'm 99.9% > sure that there's no way grml big will be happy with only 64 megs of > ram. If grml small does in fact have speakup included, as far as using > hardware synths goes, that would be a pleasant surprise. > > As for your comment about explaining too much, my motto is if in > doubt, give more info than less. Thanks again, and a clarification on > speakup in grml small from someone in the know would be appreciated, > before I possibly go wasting bandwidth. > > Greg > > > On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 03:19:39AM -0500, Pia wrote: >> The best thing to do is get a GRML live CD. GRML talks and should work >> as a live CD with your system. http://grml.org >> >> You can use a cheat code to start speakup and then mount /dev/sda1 or >> whatever your root partition is on your hard drive and then from there >> set up grub either by running grub or chrooting into the environment on >> your hard drive and running grub from there. Note that it depends on >> what is wrong as to whether you can get away without chrooting or not and >> if you don't you also have to make sure you use the correct device names. >> You can also edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and /boot/grub/device.map manually >> as needed. Note that they will be under your mount point as well and so >> the paths I gave will not be exactly what they will be once you boot >> GRML. If I did not explain how to do this specifically enough, please >> let me know, but if I was too obvious in the things I mentioned, I also >> apologise. You sound like you are very competent with Linux, and so I >> don't always know what I should or should not write as far as detail >> goes. >> >> HTH, >> >> Pia >> >> On Wed, 9 Feb 2011, Gregory Nowak wrote: >> >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>> Hash: SHA1 >>> >>> Hi folks, >>> >>> I did a minimal upgrade on my debian system from lenny to squeeze, and >>> rebooted after upgrading the kernel and udev, as the squeeze release >>> notes say to do. This left me with an unbootable system. No, it's not >>> because I ignored the warning to boot by label or uuid. I can tell >>> from the initrd shell that the piix.ko module loads, but it tells me >>> that both ide ports are disabled. This leaves me without sdax, or hdax >>> devices under /dev, and no disks directory under /dev. I have the >>> feeling that if I took out all_ide_generic out of the kernel command >>> line, things would work. My problem however is grub. >>> >>> Once the system boots from the drive, I press ESC. From what I >>> gathered by searching the web, in order to edit the command line of >>> the first menu entry, I need to type e twice, arrow to where I want to >>> edit, and press ctrl+x to get out of the editor. So, after hitting >>> ESC, I press e twice, arrow right 80 times which should put me at the >>> end of the line, and then backspace 21 times which should erase what I >>> want to erase, and I then press ctrl+x to exit. From what I >>> understand, I should then be able to hit b,and boot that entry, but >>> when I hit b, nothing happens. >>> >>> So, I tried another approach I read about. I hooked up my serial synth >>> to this machine (I normally use my doubletalk pc with speakup), and >>> rebooted. I pressed ESC, pressed c to get into command mode, and >>> typed: >>> >>> serial --unit=0 --speed=9600 >>> terminal_output serial >>> >>> but again, nothing happened. >>> >>> Another alternative would be to solve this from a livecd system, but >>> since this machine has 64 megs of ram, I haven't yet found a modern >>> livecd which would work with that much ram. >>> >>> So, if someone familiar with legacy grub (not grub2) could please walk >>> me through, key press by key press, on what I need to do to edit and >>> boot the first menu entry, I'd really appreciate it. Better yet, if >>> someone could please explain where I went wrong with the serial >>> console part, so I can do what I need to do with feedback, that would >>> be even better. >>> >>> I think I know why I've been so fond of lilo for so many years, it's >>> less complicated, or should I say less flexible to use. I have no >>> problem with flexibility, provided that I can get feedback on what I'm >>> doing. Thanks much in advance for any help. >>> >>> Greg >>> >>> >>> - -- >>> web site: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org >>> gpg public key: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org/pubkey.asc >>> skype: gregn1 >>> (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) >>> >>> - -- >>> Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >>> Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) >>> >>> iEYEARECAAYFAk1TW/sACgkQ7s9z/XlyUyCmBQCgoJOpvPj/qNTBWYtT7f/5+4un >>> t4wAn0GZMZ4u7utUOvwFt2GaDNbNCAoR >>> =dkyI >>> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Speakup mailing list >>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> > - -- > web site: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org > gpg public key: http://www.romuald.net.eu.org/pubkey.asc > skype: gregn1 > (authorization required, add me to your contacts list first) > > - -- > Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) > > iEYEARECAAYFAk1UMMQACgkQ7s9z/XlyUyDTPgCgvSieZU7qZuN/QYzZh5VN+G0B > 8moAoJRzSpp4YDFXPGFU5tzd/Bo713YN > =jyqr > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > -- Thanks, Ty