From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from imr-mb01.mx.aol.com (imr-mb01.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.164]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id C180BC1A27C for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 09:53:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtaout-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.68]) by imr-mb01.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id o35DrUR9022186 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 09:53:30 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.64] (mwhapples.plus.com [80.229.137.216]) by mtaout-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPA id 3BB68E0000BA for ; Mon, 5 Apr 2010 09:53:30 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4BB9EB58.1000007@aim.com> Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 14:53:28 +0100 From: Michael Whapples User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100403 Shredder/3.0.5pre MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Subject: Re: Some audio tutorials for installing archlinux References: <4BB90155.80205@aim.com> <4917F2C6F9874493AD0DDA1A768F8477@Jepelsy.local> <0990A50702E447F2ABAFF729B277B111@tess> <4BB9C7B4.6030307@aim.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:522701280:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d29444bb9eb5a018c X-AOL-IP: 80.229.137.216 X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 13:53:52 -0000 I know you contacted me off list asking whether I could make it available through another means so you don't need to jump through the sendspace hoops. The audio is a bit more difficult due to the size and bandwidth restrictions on my website, but I certainly can make a text version available through a standard webpage. Michael Whapples On 01/-10/-28163 08:59 PM, Will Smith wrote: > I hope a transcript in print can be offered. The tutorial sounds > interesting, but I still use dialup a lot. > > Will > wilsmith@iglou.com > > On Mon, 5 Apr 2010, Michael Whapples wrote: > >> Thanks for the feedback. I think then a transcript/written version >> (possibly better not as a direct transcript as I do sometimes ramble >> on) would solve some of the issues with speaking rate, the UK accent, >> etc. I am aware that the recording is quite long as is and slowing >> down will only make this worse, so that's why I prefer written in >> that case. Regarding the speed of the computer speech this is the >> default on the GRML CD, may be the default should be slower. >> >> Now to other matters. The file, that is about the correct size >> (27MB), I don't know why it goes wrong in windows media player, >> either windows media player has trouble where other players don't or >> may be something went wrong in your file transfer. As for why I >> prefer GNU parted, suppose biggest reason is familiarity. I don't >> know whether cfdisk can do this, but should you need to resize a >> partition then parted can do this (WARNIG: you would be well >> recommended to read parted documentation to see how to do this and >> which file systems it supports it on). >> >> Michael Whapples >> On 01/-10/-28163 08:59 PM, Arthur Pirika wrote: >>> hi, the file worked fine here. were you using windows to download? >>> sometimes internet explorer likes to make you think the files fully >>> downloaded when it really isn't. Personally, i found eSpeak to be at >>> just the right rate for me, I seem to remember grml having a faster >>> rate by default? But, I, to, say good job, mike. >>> Oh, one question. why do you prefer gnu parted over the other tools >>> on the cd? cfDisk, for instance, let's you cursor around your >>> drives, showing immediately which flags are selected, the sizes of >>> the partitions, etc. It also autofills in sizes, so you don't have >>> to calculate them by hand. >>> >>> Arthur. >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "JP Jamous" >>> To: "'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'" >>> >>> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 4:33 PM >>> Subject: RE: Some audio tutorials for installing archlinux >>> >>> >>> >>>> Michael, >>>> >>>> Wonderful job. I really learned quite a bit as a new Linux user. >>>> Here are my >>>> comments though. >>>> >>>> 1. Considering that the list is diverse, English is a problem. I am >>>> Lebanese >>>> and speak Arabic, English and French. However, I have lived in the >>>> States >>>> for 16 years and heard so many accents. It took me a couple of >>>> minutes to >>>> get used to your accent. >>>> >>>> Nothing wrong with it. Yet, I had to listen carefully to pick up on >>>> how you >>>> pronounce your words. To solve this, I would recommend you speak >>>> slowly. >>>> Also avoid any day to day rambling, as I like to call it. This is >>>> when you >>>> do not pronounce the word fully and or you chop off some letters. >>>> Those are >>>> really hard on people who do not speak good English and or do not have >>>> experiences with different dialects. >>>> >>>> The same goes to your SWSpeak. It was running too fast to >>>> understand it. I >>>> would recommend you slow it down. This way, both new and advanced >>>> users can >>>> keep up. Let's take as an example JAWS when it first installs. It >>>> runs the >>>> default speed rate, which is understandable by everyone. I later >>>> end up >>>> increasing it to 50%, which is what I like. >>>> >>>> 2. I would recommend you have an outline at first. Think of it as a >>>> table of >>>> contents explaining what you are going to do in details and each step. >>>> >>>> For example, I followed the installation with a few questions. >>>> >>>> 1. Did you install SWSpeak first to have speech output than you >>>> installed >>>> the operating system? >>>> >>>> 2. How did SWSpeak knew what sound card you were using and how did it >>>> install without an operating system installed. >>>> >>>> Those are the kinds of questions a new user would be wondering. >>>> This way, >>>> you can outline your steps and provide the technical background >>>> necessary >>>> for people to understand what is going on behind the scenes. >>>> >>>> 3. Your MP3 broke and Windows Media Player couldn't read it after the >>>> deletion of the partition. It was obvious that the MP3 coding was >>>> damaged at >>>> that point. It could be the server you had it on. I downloaded >>>> about 27 mb >>>> of the file. >>>> >>>> 4. If you would like a server to publish it. I would be more than >>>> happy to >>>> provide you with space on my server. I am really beginning to get >>>> into Linux >>>> and with a FTP account, you can just upload your web site and >>>> people can >>>> download it easily. Get back with me on this one if you are >>>> interested. You >>>> can e-mail me off the list so we do not waste other members' time. >>>> >>>> In summation, great work. I got the feel of how it runs and hearing >>>> it is a >>>> great tool. This way, you can follow through. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca >>>> [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] >>>> On Behalf Of Michael Whapples >>>> Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 5:15 PM >>>> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. >>>> Subject: Some audio tutorials for installing archlinux >>>> >>>> Hello, >>>> I decided to record some audio tutorials for installing archlinux. >>>> I started >>>> by doing one on using the GRML liveCD to do the install, however >>>> this lead >>>> to quite a long recording being just short of two hours. So I >>>> decided to do >>>> one using the speakup modified archlinux installer CD, this came >>>> out at >>>> about one and a half hours (still a little longer than I really want). >>>> >>>> I decided before finding a permanent home for these, I would let >>>> people have >>>> a listen to the initial recordings (I may try and get a bit more >>>> editing >>>> done on these) and see which people feel are of value. If you feel >>>> a written >>>> copy of these would be better please say so. >>>> >>>> The links for now are: >>>> The GRML based install http://www.sendspace.com/file/4s4p17 >>>> Using the speakup modified archlinux installer CD >>>> http://www.sendspace.com/file/e02n38 >>>> >>>> Thanks for any feedback. >>>> >>>> Michael Whapples >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Speakup mailing list >>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Speakup mailing list >>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> > > >