From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from dukecmmtar03.coxmail.com (dukecmmtar03.coxmail.com [68.99.120.44]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6575710A5F for ; Wed, 23 Sep 2009 01:33:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.31] (really [70.166.17.50]) by dukecmmtar03.coxmail.com (InterMail vM.7.05.02.00 201-2174-114-20060621) with ESMTP id <20090923052547.BCYY15151.dukecmmtar03.coxmail.com@[192.168.0.31]> for ; Wed, 23 Sep 2009 01:25:47 -0400 Message-ID: <4AB9B301.1040901@baechler.net> Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 22:32:49 -0700 From: Tony Baechler User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.1) Gecko/20090715 Thunderbird/3.0b3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Subject: Re: How to use espeakup, revisited... References: <20090922083805.GB6084@const.bordeaux.inria.fr> <3835BDE60AD54D3991F211CD868918C5@math.wisc.edu> <20090922222306.GA22608@romuald.net.eu.org> In-Reply-To: <20090922222306.GA22608@romuald.net.eu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 05:33:09 -0000 Hi, I have a further suggestion which might solve the below problem with people not being informed of changes. I know that Debian and all the BSD branches do something similar. That is to create a separate list where new change logs would automatically be posted. There was a list called speakup-cvs for that purpose but it's dead now. The reason for making it a separate list is to avoid potentially cluttering this list with excess traffic in which most people aren't interested. For major releases, an announcement can still be posted here as has been done recently (thanks Chris and William) but for small changes, the output of git-log could be posted to a new speakup-git list. I think such a new list would have moderate traffic. Sometimes several days go by with no activity but other times there are several small changes in a day. I'm fairly sure that git has a facility to do this. The Linux kernel also has a list which posts changes and it is kept in git. I think I saw something called git-mail but I could be imagining things. Is this a good idea? I'm not skilled enough with git to do it myself, but perhaps Kirk could create the list and someone could set this up. Any thoughts? On 9/22/2009 3:23 PM, Gregory Nowak wrote: > While I'll agree that it would be nice to see a list of changes posted > here as they happen, I don't think this is strictly necessary, that's > what the very well detailed changelog is for. Once you've checked > speakup out from git, switch to the directory with the sources, and > do: > git log > and you'll want to pipe that through your favorite pager of > course. If you get speakup as a package from your distribution's > repository, then there should be a changelog included with your > package. To summarize, while it would be nice to see a list of changes > posted here periodically, if it comes down to the development team > spending time on duplicating already existing information, or instead > spending that time on fixing bugs/implementing new features, I'd > rather see the developers use that time to do the latter personally. >