From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from dukecmmtar04.coxmail.com (dukecmmtar04.coxmail.com [68.99.120.47]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 353AD109CD for ; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 06:55:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.29] (really [70.166.17.50]) by dukecmmtar04.coxmail.com (InterMail vM.7.05.02.00 201-2174-114-20060621) with ESMTP id <20090314104735.ZEKE23885.dukecmmtar04.coxmail.com@[192.168.0.29]> for ; Sat, 14 Mar 2009 06:47:35 -0400 Message-ID: <49BB9B4E.9010704@baechler.net> Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 03:55:58 -0800 From: Tony Baechler User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca Subject: [Fwd: Re: Adding speech to IFL] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 10:55:50 -0000 Hi all, Yes, I realize that this is not open source software and will turn off many of you, but it is a good disk imaging and backup program and I highly recommend it. It is rare that a commercial company will go out of their way to support the blind community and especially a relatively small project like Speakup, so I would encourage you to please take a look at this. If there are free software alternatives that work as well and have the current Speakup from git built-in, I'm certainly not aware of them. If you register, I think you get free upgrades for life but you would need to check the site. They also offer Image for DOS and Windows, both of which are very accessible. I find their software far better and easier to work with than Ghost which I couldn't use at all. I suppose one could use dd which is part of coreutils, but it doesn't offer compression and would still require a live or rescue CD to use outside the boot drive. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: Adding speech to IFL Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 11:52:02 -0400 From: TeraByte Support (TP) Organization: TeraByte Unlimited To: Tony Baechler References: <49B66FF4.90107@optonline.net> <49B693E1.9060406@terabyteunlimited.com> <49B7C966.1010302@baechler.net> Hi Tony, I got delayed by other issues yesterday, but I'm now making the test copy with Speakup 3.0.3 available at the following link: http://tpdirect.homeip.net:1081/ifl-speakup-unreg.zip The zip file there includes the iflnet.iso file, a readme file, and the spkguide.txt file that comes with Speakup. The readme file hopefully explains the rest well enough for users to try it. Please note that this ISO file contains the trial (unregistered) version of IFL 2.26. I asked, but am not able to provide the registered version for this test. Hopefully, that will be OK. I will keep the test version available at that link for as long as necessary - or at least a week or so at any rate. Thanks again for the response, and of course any feedback is very much welcome. I put my email address in the readme file for users to send feedback ( tomp@terabyteunlimited.com ) Regards, -- Tom Pfeifer TeraByte Consultant Tony Baechler wrote: > Yes, I'm still very interested! With the git versions of Speakup, it > doesn't matter as much if it is compiled as modules or not as it > apparently doesn't speak every boot message anyway. The idea behind > compiling it into the kernel was to keep the size down and to have > access to all boot messages, but anything is better than nothing. > Modules would be fine and probably makes more sense. Yes, I would like > to download and try the test image. I realize that IFL isn't free > software, but is there any way the rest of the Speakup community could > test this? That would test a lot more hardware combinations and > different synthesizers than I have available here. > > TeraByte Support (TP) wrote: >> Hi Tony, >> >> A while ago, you contacted us about adding speakup to the IFL boot disk. >> >> I realize this was over a year ago, but if you are still interested, I >> can make a test copy of the IFL boot disk ISO file (iflnet.iso) >> available for download within the next day or so. >> >> It will have speakup (version 3.0.3) compiled directly into the kernel, >> which you indicated was preferable to using modules. Any feedback you >> could give us would be extremely helpful. >> >> Thanks and regards, >> >>