From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from qw-out-2122.google.com (qw-out-2122.google.com [74.125.92.26]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB51B10A78 for ; Sat, 14 Feb 2009 08:57:28 -0500 (EST) Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 3so400125qwe.23 for ; Sat, 14 Feb 2009 05:57:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:mime-version :content-class:from:subject:date:importance:x-priority:to :content-transfer-encoding:content-type; bh=N+uETF7AOBQc/6ckmK65e1eCXtsb05DQLWWu4/jzkQU=; b=Ai02sOZ+coQJbZqF9cZHTN1l8xeAM114OUQ/f41IaZpc7hsz3lD24yWPb6QfAlgg20 L40r9GZuX9yquLjLmcHIEOYKLhZqzrOjz+ESBoTCHUcIoyC1IZJgK9p2z/NgT1J5JZS8 h2l9g8HSZUWLKmK9Anm21gTNKPpehNHurpQ1Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:mime-version:content-class:from:subject:date:importance :x-priority:to:content-transfer-encoding:content-type; b=ZqrJxAOQB0t14aRb+G1fOMqZl3vaa9wLv16v+3g3DsHH3s1w+Dr4vG8UqBXYM/FY3M R/nzpDv81izXdbUeQ6zfIv1psZZyLQu0pvRjrQ15L+A1Q3PXriIL8SV5Xx+19GYez5/x sjO06ykSc8APSB7yaRsBQ98exQoRjkyuKsCws= Received: by 10.224.29.10 with SMTP id o10mr5124189qac.96.1234619848341; Sat, 14 Feb 2009 05:57:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from Inbox (43.sub-70-223-54.myvzw.com [70.223.54.43]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 5sm2203232qwg.54.2009.02.14.05.57.25 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 14 Feb 2009 05:57:28 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4996cdc8.85c2f10a.65ca.ffffed82@mx.google.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 content-class: From: Subject: RE: command line ftp client Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 08:57:26 -0500 Importance: normal X-Priority: 3 To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 13:57:29 -0000 Hi. I have looked at ncftp and I actually use it sometimes. Lftp has better= scripting support.=20 -----Original Message----- From: Tony Baechler Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 6:40 AM To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Subject: Re: command line ftp client Hi, I'm afraid I have to jump in here. This is now the second reply=20 concerning the "standard" ftp client. I have to take issue with this=20 usage. As far as I can tell, there is no standard ftp client. Let me=20 explain. I'm aware that on Windows and various BSD distributions,=20 saying "ftp" at a command prompt will run a fairly basic ftp client. =20 However, at least in Debian, this is not standard and isn't installed=20 with the standard software. Instead, you have to install netkit-ftp. =20 Also, every "standard" implementation is different. I recently read=20 that NetBSD maintains their own ftp client and their own version of=20 ftpd, different from the old BSD ftp but still simply called as ftp. =20 Windows ftp doesn't work exactly the same as BSD ftp. Even netkit-ftp,=20 while based on BSD ftp, isn't exactly the same as it was ported to=20 Linux. Therefore, I would ask that people please don't refer to a=20 "standard" ftp client as each OS is slightly different. I don't know=20 how Fedora and other Linux distros do things, but I would guess that=20 their version of ftp has small differences also. Regarding the comment that ncftp doesn't have a secure version from Hart=20 Larry, I would say that the ftp protocol isn't designed for security=20 anyway as user names and passwords are sent in cleartext. If you really=20 need security, try stunnel. If you're thinking that sftp is secure ftp,=20 that's wrong. It's part of ssh and works like ftp but it isn't the same=20 protocol. If you mean ftp over SSL, again look at stunnel. I would=20 agree that ncftp itself doesn't support ftps or whatever it's called. Finally, the differences between the BSD ftp and other clients. I=20 personally use ncftp and here are just a few differences: First, ncftp=20 stores login information so I don't have to enter it every time. =20 Second, it has bookmarks so I can just say "o speakup" instead of "open=20 ftp.linux-speakup.org." It has nice progress bars so I'm not wondering=20 if it's still working when downloading big files. [The entire original message is not included]=