From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.oregonstate.edu (smtp1.oregonstate.edu [128.193.15.35]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4352109EB for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 12:26:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1.oregonstate.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB88E3C21B for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 09:27:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at oregonstate.edu Received: from smtp1.oregonstate.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.oregonstate.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OKlqPPWrveVR for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 09:27:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (128-193-247-38.resnet.oregonstate.edu [128.193.247.38]) by smtp1.oregonstate.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F6793C21A for ; Tue, 23 Sep 2008 09:27:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <48D918DB.3000206@onid.orst.edu> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 09:27:07 -0700 From: Zachary Kline User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Subject: Re: State of accessibility on BSD systems References: <20080920002732.1E33C10B3F@speech.braille.uwo.ca> <48D4C528.8030302@baechler.net> <20080920152153.GA20884@gmx.net> <48D614E3.8030206@baechler.net> <20080921235033.GA15615@localhost.localdomain> <48D7784B.1010205@baechler.net> <20080922192627.GA31285@localhost.localdomain> <48D8C4A8.1030608@baechler.net> In-Reply-To: <48D8C4A8.1030608@baechler.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:26:56 -0000 Tony Baechler wrote: > Hi, > > I've confirmed that NetBSD does in fact have binary packages for > apparently all supported arches and has had them for several years. > The Vax packages haven't been maintained since 2005 from what I can > gather but the I386 packages seem current. The recommended thing is of > course to build from source, but there are many binaries available for > those who can't or don't want to. > > Also, I checked and found at least one emulator called simh which > claims to emulate the Vax but the microcode isn't available. That's > not the one I was thinking of but it would probably work. All it needs > is the standard C library so there should be no accessibility issues. > I'll find the other one if anyone else cares besides me. > > I looked in Debian and there is no qemu-curses package. The regular > qemu requires X. Even if Qemu has a curses setup, is that also > supported in the guest OS? In other words, can it not use a GUI when > launching say DOS or the BSD installer? When I tried it, I never got > it to do anything at all. My processor can't use kvm unfortunately. > Does anyone know about xen? It can apparently run both BSD and Linux > and has console tools for administration, but I don't know anything > besides that. Will it support multiple VMs such as a Linux host with > BSD guest or does one need to reboot into a new OS? How would one > install BSD on a xen VM? I suppose I should install the xen-docs-3.2 > package but I would like to get a general idea of how it works and if > it's accessible first. > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > Hi, I've actually used SIMH to emulate and run NetBSD VAX before on many occasions. IT works quite nicely, and the microcode is available, even if only in binary form. The neat thing about SIMH is that the interface is console-based and therefore completely accessible. (It doesn't even emulate any graphics cards.) Hope this helps, Zack.