From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from nctlincom02.orcon.net.nz (nctlincom02.orcon.net.nz [60.234.4.75]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3142C1A207 for ; Wed, 11 Apr 2012 23:03:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mx1.orcon.net.nz (mx1.orcon.net.nz [219.88.242.51]) by nctlincom02.orcon.net.nz (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.4) with ESMTP id q3C33aZS014839 for ; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 15:03:36 +1200 Received: from Debian-exim by mx1.orcon.net.nz with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SIAJZ-0001db-98 for speakup@braille.uwo.ca; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 15:03:17 +1200 Received: from [121.98.132.12] (helo=Audio1) by mx1.orcon.net.nz with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SIAJZ-0001dL-28 for speakup@braille.uwo.ca; Thu, 12 Apr 2012 15:03:17 +1200 Message-ID: <45909676B2A74FA1AB83F7983177ADD0@Audio1> From: "Marcel Oats" To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." Subject: Speakup and Orca working together in wheezy, revisited? Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 15:03:17 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8117.416 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8117.416 X-DSPAM-Check: by mx1.orcon.net.nz on Thu, 12 Apr 2012 15:03:17 +1200 X-DSPAM-Result: Innocent X-DSPAM-Processed: Thu Apr 12 15:03:17 2012 X-DSPAM-Confidence: 0.6513 X-DSPAM-Probability: 0.0000 X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN, default) X-Spam-Score: 2.10 (**) [Hold at 5.00] STOX_REPLY_TYPE, STOX_REPLY_TYPE_WITHOUT_QUOTES X-CanIt-Geo: ip=121.98.132.12; country=NZ; region=E7; city=Auckland; latitude=-36.8667; longitude=174.7667; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=-36.8667,174.7667&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: base:default X-Canit-Stats-ID: 05GUP3A3H - 59706da4af16 - 20120412 X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 172.16.100.175 X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 03:03:22 -0000 Hi folks, this might seem a bit repeditive, I would like to have a wheezy system to play with, and have it already, but I am wanting to have it so as speakup can run alongside Orca. I believe this is possible, but haven't found any real info as to how to do it, though I have read that the file /etc/pulseaudio can be edited, though this file does not exist. If I install wheezy with speakup (running the installer with the s parameter) this is fine, we have a system, gnome starts (as does speakup) and if you want to stop speakup reading most messages you can go to the first tty with ctrl+alt+f1. We can log in, and then decide to install the "gnome-orca" package. After that is where things become interesting: we can restart the system and Orca will automatically (here anyway) read the logon screen, and we can log on; but that is all we can do in gnome, any other commands such as alt+f1 to open the menus, must produce some kind of error, and the only thing that is usable, is, surprizingly enough, orca preferences. Now it would appear that since speech dispatcher is being used by both speakup and orca? ? ? speakup is now unable to talk, though commands in the CLI are exicuted, slowly. I am wondering about two options here: since I can see me wanting to enable and disable speakup at will, should I look at booting the installer and having it accept ssh connections, going in there, and installing it from another machine, loading orca etc (since it can provide a terminal anyway) and if need be modprobing speakup_soft and running espeakup when needed (though it could still cause problems) Or, asking how we allow both to run? Sorry about the long winded questions. Marcel