From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.188]) by speech.braille.uwo.ca with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1GdSKL-0006RR-00 for ; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 10:04:53 -0400 Received: from [81.191.161.221] (helo=[81.191.161.221]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrelayeu5) with ESMTP (Nemesis), id 0ML25U-1GdSKH3U1q-0007zk; Fri, 27 Oct 2006 16:04:52 +0200 Message-ID: <4542121A.4040006@ubuntu.com> Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 16:05:14 +0200 From: Henrik Nilsen Omma User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060918) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca Subject: Feisty SpeakUp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de login:8d5020abe73c4c19784bf38f0f038dcc X-BeenThere: speakup@braille.uwo.ca X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Id: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 14:04:54 -0000 Hello, I'd like to ask for some input on a spec I'm doing for the next version of Ubuntu. We currently have speakup in the kernel but it's very far from Just Works. See: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Accessibility/Specs/FeistySpeakup I guess I first have to ask what the common use cases are. Is speakup largely used by system admins and developers working from the CLI? Is it valuable to have a Live CD that boots to the CLI with speakup? We currently don't have CLI Live CD AFAIK. The possible areas I could imagine improving usability are: * Server edition -- Currently has the speakup module, but not simple way to install or run live * The debian installer -- currently used on the alternate and server CDs * spoken boot -- have all the boot messages read out as you boot * Standard CLI, simple launch -- For those who prefer gnome it may be difficult to recover when X fails. It should be trivial to launch speakup in such cases: 'start-speakup'. An introduction with basic operating instructions should be read out. * anything else? Another point I want to emphasise is that if we do this it would be in the main Ubuntu distribution, not a special derivative. It is not just intended for advanced computer users, but beginners as well. The features should then also get picked up by Kubuntu, Edubuntu, Mephis, etc. Henrik